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Re: One More CLC Stockton Question
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Originally Posted by Sean
When Elder Haney decided to build it, he went to headquarters and turned it over to his son Nathaniel.
If elder Haney would not have went to headquarters and stayed there, the church would have probably doubled.
The old sanctuary seats possibly 1800 when packed....
We were there over 20 years and helped in several building projects.
The problem I have with Nathaniel is he is not diplomatic with those with differing viewpoints. He said one too many times.."if you dont agree with me, just leave"....well many folks JUST LEFT!
Elder Haney would be diplomatic and fight for your allegiance, even come to your house...also, he never forgot your name, no matter who you were.
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You are not the first person with a long time association with CLC who has pointed out that Nate does not have his fathers people skills and that has cost them dearly in members. I had great respect for what Kenneth Haney accomplished in Stockton with the church, Bible College, and radio stations. I also agree that if he had stayed and not gone to HQ the ministry would have continued its trajectory of growth and the new sanctuary would make perfect sense.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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