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Originally Posted by J.A. Perez
Sean,
If that was read and considered, we would all have to agree that you have a good point.
But unfortunately since Clement and Polycarp were not preterist.
The preterist on this forum will not except their 1st hand account.
Even though they were disciples of the apostles, and their sons in the gospel.
Jmho
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Yes my brother, belief in preterism has clouded the minds of men to reach into other sources and abandon the contextual and literal content of the passages.
It is a powerful belief system, that sends them down rabbit holes to follow and vindicate a group such as this....
http://revelationrevolution.org/how-...es-in-genesis/
Heaven and earth have been renewed at least eight times throughout Biblical history and the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy. ....
Whenever a nation was conquered by another, the Bible often portrays this conquest as the destruction and creation of heaven and earth. .....
both Eden and the New Jerusalem are places in both heaven and earth. Thus
Genesis 2-3 tells a heavenly story with an earthly shadow. At its heavenly level,
Genesis 2-3 is a story about Adam being cast out of the Eden that is in heaven to Earth. The curses of
Genesis 3:14-19 were the result of
Adam, the Serpent and Eve being cast from heaven to earth to experience these punishments in a world that had presumably already been this way for millennia.....
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http://www.googleadservices.com/page...revolution.org........
You should see the pages of insanity that preterists believe in the post above.
Now Bro. Perez, this is why this argument ensued yesterday, the preterists involved believe this is what 2 Peter 3 is "really" saying....
John Owen
"On this foundation I affirm that the heavens and earth here intended in this prophecy of Peter, the coming of the Lord, the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men, mentioned in the destruction of that heaven and earth, do all of them relate,
not to the last and final judgment of the world, but to that utter desolation and destruction that was to be made of the Judaical church and state;...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...QP-WMzj491Ry9A
Is that just INSANE, or what?...LOL
You see Bro. Perez...Many of these preterist leaning commentators like the one mentioned, lived at a time that Israel was not a nation. They were impatient, then in their haste, began to "spiritualize" the passages about Israel because they were trying to vindicate the Bible and their conceived impossibility of Israel re-emerging as a nation.
They can now rest in their graves and believe the Word of God as it says....Israel IS a nation once again and the prophecies of a coming messiah to reign over Israel and the world are ready to be realized!