[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Zog Has-fallen

Is there any chance that you could be encouraged to read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-in-waistcoat and to reconsider your claim?

I think the evidence is pretty solid, without regard to hand in waistcoat poses for portraits. I wasn't even thinking about that particular claimed evidence, in fact.

The Investigative Judgment doctrine in Adventism originated before Ellen White had any visions about it. Nevertheless, Sister White's subsequent visions regarding the IJ were Biblical in the sense that God is sometimes represented in the Old Testament as coming down to earth to investigate certain situations before taking action (Genesis 3:8-11, 11:5). Sister White's highly anthropomorphic, typologically rich sanctuary interpretation of the pre-Advent judgment is too complicated for mortals to explain from Scripture alone. More important and far more instructive is the grand endtime judgment scene of a Roman Antichrist, judged from God's throne room in heaven, with numerous witnesses and open books, which brings about the end of this world and vindicates the saints (Daniel 7). For the most authoritative and up-to-date understanding of the pre-Advent judgment, I prefer The Great, Final, Awesome Settling of Destiny as taught by Jesus Christ.

Interesting read, but your linked article seemed a bit more like a really general overview. Do you have anything more specific?

Also, regarding Daniel 7, I invite you to read the results of a study I did concerning that called The Son of Man - http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=52564

I'm not aware of SDAs ever having a church-approved exposition of the three angels' messages. The best brief summary is just reading The Three Angels’ Messages Versus The Three Demons’ Messages, skipping all the videos and links, but reading all the link titles. Here's the current overview:

In order to be a perfect sacrifice, to complete the atonement and defeat Satan, Jesus Christ had to withstand Satan's greatest temptations. Satan selected the three greatest temptations that beset all mankind for the contest recorded in Matthew 4:1-11. These are the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life (1 John 2:16). That's the order of the three temptations listed in Luke 4:1-13. The three angels' messages of Revelation 14:6-12 parallel Christ's response to Satan's three temptations in Matthew 4:1-11, which also parallels and rebuffs, in order, the primary characteristics of the dragon, beast and false prophet in Revelation 12 and 13.

But is that not the same basic message that has gone forth since John Baptist, if not earlier?