[Michael The Disciple]

Rev 20:

10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Here we are told Satan will be tormented forever and ever or for ages and ages.

Drawing on what I previously posted we have no way to know how long an age or forever is to God when he renders his judgment. We know they could be very short, very long, or something else.

I believe using the devil we can show that this particular word Strongs 165 does not teach that anyone will be tormented WITHOUT END.

What do we know about the devil? Besides the fact Jesus saw him fall like lightning from Heaven this gives us the best knowledge we have on his origin.

A Lament over the King of Tyre

Ezekiel 28:11-15

11Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

12Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

13Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Does this sound like an earthly king? I never knew of one described like this. Yes this I believe was the devil before he fell from Heaven.

Now John said he would be tormented forever and ever. That must be true. And yet look at what the rest of the context says.

Verse 16-19

16By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

19All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

Yes the devil will suffer for ever and ever. Yet after forever and ever note what happens.

God destroys him with fire and he BECOMES NOTHING!

So in the end all scripture will be fulfilled!

There will first be suffering for the wicked. It will not last eternally. But their ultimate end which is DEATH.......IS ETERNAL.

Once they suffer the 2nd death it WILL BE FOR ETERNITY.

So yes their is eternal punishment. The death of the soul.