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Originally Posted by Esaias
See? I really get the feeling you aren't reading what you are responding to. I know you feel you "don't personally need" the 4th Commandment to tell you give a worker a day off. I addressed that personal feeling. In effect, y essentially feel you know better than God does in how to go about doing the right thing. The 4th Commandment is just another precept in a long list of precepts that would weigh you down and from which you have been freed. Amirite?
I really think you have missed the entire point of Isaiah's teaching and have inadvertently championed the very position he was rebuking.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Seems like the apostle didn't want anyone to rely on their inner bubbly feels to be able to verify if their actions are in fact right. He instead pointed to "all Scripture" - which at the time included the ones YOU say you "don't personally need." |
A poor choice of words on my behalf. I didn’t mean that the fourth commandment can now simply be throne away. Instead, it teaches about entering into God’s rest, similarly to that rest that God had, after all His work was finished. Did God get all tired out after working 6 24hour days or was God trying to teach us about something greater He had in store for us. Each day day in the six day creation may not have even been absolute 24hr periods. The sun that is used to distinguish the times and seasons for us was not even created until day 4. How was evening and morning even distinguished before then.
Personally, I don’t think there are something’s we will know in this life. What we do know is that the format of the seven days in creation has taught us so much more.
The apostles didn’t forbid the Jews from keeping much of their mosaic practices when they entered the new covenant. But, it was explicitly repeated that they where not to burden down the gentile believers with that system. Of course all the law was the layout for our New Covenant doctrine, but we are no longer under the ole ball and chain. We now can walk in the Spirit of God. It is not about the feely weelys, but rather having the nature of God living in our hearts.
How could fisherman, which probably had little education and training in the law(other than was typical for ordinary working class Jewish children growing up), preach with such authority and wisdom the word of God? It was because the spirit of God dwelt inside of them, anointing them to . do so. It isn’t feelings that that I base my case on but it is a compilation of scriptures.
This person I am meeting with, is a vegan because he believes that is what God lays out for us in the first few chapters of Genesis (which goes even beyond Mosaic law). He would have people believe they are in sin because of the food on their plates, but that is contrary to the teachings of Christ.
If we are still under any of the Old Testament laws, why did Jesus come and die? In that case, Christ didn’t fulfill anything, but those laws are still in full effect. That doesn’t mean I find government from God by feely wheelies, it means that I have higher sense of the law of righteousness. Jesus expounds on it when he is teaching the sermon on the mount in
Mathew 5. The law now now has more clarity for its purpose to us.