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Old 09-24-2022, 10:43 PM
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Re: Sabbath and bible feasts

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I personally don't agree 100% with that reasoning. The extrabiblical categorization theologians do between "ceremonial" and "moral" has been beyond abused.
I don't either, that is why I keep affirming that we are not under the law of the Old covenant. when you start categorizing that this law is moral and this one is ceremonial it gets controversial, because they are interwoven as ceremonial and moral. For a Jew to not obey a ceremonial law, it becomes a moral issue because disobedience to God is immoral. Jesus never violated any ordinance of God and became our substitute and our salvation is his free gift. I don't do good to get saved or even stay saved, but I do it because I am saved. I no longer have that old stony heart that I once. Sure the flesh is still present, but for a child of God that is not living up to their calling they are the most miserable person on earth.

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For example, in the name of "it is not a moral law", modern Christians tattoo themselves. The point (3) in that quote, IIRC, refers to the judgment (e.g. stoning) people were supposed to do when someone sinned.
Can you clarify these, because I am not sure of what you are talking about.

What is IIRC?

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I don't agree with his theology that people didn't have the assistance of the Spirit to overcome sin in the OT either, but that's a topic for another thread.
The Holy Spirit has always been at work, but man had never received atonement (until Christ) for the baptism we now know to occur.

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Anyway, Bernard does not follow your reasoning that "the commandments must be in the NT as well to keep it, otherwise, it is not applicable". That's not the UPCI official stand either.
I don't know any two Christians who agree on Bible doctrine. I am going to say we are not that far off as far as the Sabbaths, feast days, dietary laws are concerned. Jesus and the apostles taught everything we need to be victorious over sin, and there are still things to be gleaned in old Testament scripture without making a reviving of the law.

This is a better theology: we are still subject to keep the instruction of the law unless explicitly discontinued in the New Testament by the those that knew the right theology: Jesus and the apostles.

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