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Old 10-21-2022, 03:50 PM
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Re: Forgiveness or Remission?

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Originally Posted by good samaritan View Post
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“For the repentant” is in the very first sentence I wrote. We obviously have faith if we are repentant. What I was meaning is Gods free gift of forgiveness is to the repentant. Gods Forgiveness is not manipulated by a sinners prayer or any other physical observances. When we repent, God freely forgives, and obedience is a continued result of repentance.
So you don't agree with the following statement?
"When we are baptised in the name of Jesus, God freely forgives."

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Therefore, we have the example of the thief on the cross being saved.
Where does it say anything about the thief being saved? Where does it say anything about him repenting?

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The thief was forgiven after (faith)repentance, and if he would of lived to tell it, he would have been baptized and filled like all the rest of Christ followers.
Where does it say the thief was forgiven?

Don't you think you are making an awful lot of speculative assumptions, and then building doctrine on those assumptions?

The blood of Christ (that is to say, His death) is what secures forgiveness of sins. We contact the blood (that is to say, we are identified with His death) in baptism. Therefore, baptism is for (into) the remission (aphesis, "forgiveness") of sins.
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