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Originally Posted by Esaias
So repentance and belief aren't required to receive forgiveness.
So repentance and belief are the response to being forgiven. You have God forgiving a person by grace, which results in that person becoming a believer who repents.
Which means the thief on the cross is not an example of how people get saved.
The work of God causes us to believe, repent, be baptised, receive the Spirit, and continue steadfast in the original apostolic faith. It does not cause us to believe that alien sinners enter covenant with God apart from repentance and baptism.
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This was your response. I didn’t realize we where discussing the distinctions between repentance and remission at this point, since it has already been established that was the same Greek word. I thought you where wanting someone to give scripture for at the point in time remission of sins takes place.