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Old 01-05-2023, 04:05 PM
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Re: Forgiveness or Remission?

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Originally Posted by votivesoul View Post
Brother, not a single retort of yours in any way nullifies or answers anything I wrote. All I wrote, which you quoted, is absolutely true, Biblical fact, for anyone to read. God can dwell in the presence of sinful humanity, with His holiness and righteousness in no way negating the presence of that sinfulness. I think you missed or glossed over the point I made about the tendency within evangelical thinking to assume God and sin cannot be together in the same room, as it were. I showed otherwise, to prove that a person who has received the Holy Spirit, spoken in other tongues, prophesied, cast out evil spirits, done miracles, and etc. in the name of Christ, can still be lost in the final analysis.

There is therefore no proof in the Scriptures that remission needs to take place before God takes up residence in a person's heart through the Holy Spirit beforehand. Or, Paul and Peter don't agree. You chose which you think is right.
If that is the case, repentance isn't necessary for people to be filled with the Holy Ghost. God could just randomly fills people with the baptism of the Spirit at random times thoughout their day lol. We receive forgiveness when we genuinely ask. The Holy Ghost is the seal of our betrothal. The groom doesn't put a ring on his soon-to-be wife until she has first accepted his proposal.

We respond to Gods call by repentance, and baptism will follow if the recipient is informed they need to do so.
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