[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

Dom has said: Don, may I suggest you don't poke the bear.

And he also has said: Another thing, if you don't like what an organization believes or how they do their business? Don't be a part of that organization. It's that simple. Don, is all this belly aching because the UPCI kicked you to the curb? Move on buddy. A public forum is no where to lick your wounds. Also in the UPCI they have districts and it is up to the district board, whether they give the pass on what a preacher sees as far as doctrine. You fell under the wheels of a chariot with the Canadian UPCI? All I can say is oh well. Live for God, and don't be obnoxious. Maybe they'll invite you back.

Hi, Dom. Thx for the friendly advice.

Are we friends now? You'll no doubt agree that many past words spoken to me by you would make it difficult for me to see them as friendly. But do keep up with this new trend. No one knows where it might lead.

Therefore, I see them not as friendly advice but again as posturing as the authority all should want to take heed to.

If you are Apostolic, and I am Apostolic, and the UPC or any other Org is Apostolic, it testifies to a scriptural stand. The Apostolic mantra is 'we've got the Truth'. I love Truth. All should love Truth.

If I say that I love the Word and my church says the same; and my church family then departs from Truth, the responsibility any Christian has is to make efforts to have it to return. That is what "earnestly contend for the faith once delivered" means. You offer unscriptural advice when you say to move on. Or, have I missed something? Plz convince me otherwise.

If you in the past have 'moved on' from a place you should have stayed to fight, then it's not yet too late to return. Perhaps you took the easy road to leave, instead of trying to make things right? Was it related to the topics Ro14 says should have made you acceptable to stay?

I suppose you see yourself as the arbiter of acceptable topics for threads in AFF, by saying what you said. That would make you an Admin. I have yet to see your name anywhere as associated with Admins. As such you may be usurping the role and authority of others.

You thus show two errors: unscriptural advice and usurping. Why should anyone take heed to your advice when you've demonstrated you do not take your own advice? You referred to lines of authority seen in District Boards but circumvented the authority structure seen in AFF leadership to operate outside of it.

The reason some wrongs persist in church practice, leading to some of the fracturing of the Body and countless needless church Orgs seen in the world, is because of the lack of the ability to fight fairly when contending. Proper teaching and acceptance of the teaching of Ro14 would undermine and prevent some of this from occurring.

Your positioning yourself in AFF as the authority which should be heeded demonstrates your place outside of the influence of Ro14. You demonstrate that you think your way is the only way. Ro14 teaches against this. Perhaps you more than any other need to spend some time with Ro14 and prayer. Unity would then be better preserved, while your style of doing things leads to people separating themselves. Is your style of posting slurs the reason why AFF is not used as much as it could be?

It's been refreshing seeing some of your replies use logic and reason, not ranting with disapproving slurs of others. Plz keep it up. Adding theological arguments along with scripture would also make your posts more appealing to those wanting to get into the depths of the Word. You actually had started to do so in the last posts of "1Co11.2-16. Instincts. The Cover of Shame", but we were cut short in its continuance by its closing.

Let's get back to the Word and be the Church we are supposed to be, by including the teaching and practice of Ro14.

Lets talk about scripture, Ro14. Do you want to move on from "1Co11.2-16. Instincts. The Cover of Shame"? Let's do that too.

Don, you are a smack talker. Were you the Mr. Smith in your story who was given the left foot of fellowship? We aren't called to stay in a church family or an organization to be troublemakers. Because you feel you figured it all out, and now desire the need to take everyone to school. No matter if it is eschatology, soteriology, or theology. If the pastor or the elders don't agree with you, you have three roads to go down. One shut up and sit down. Two leave and take your beliefs down the road with you, or three, joust it out with the pastor, and elders. If they are so inclined, and even have the strength to want to climb that mountain. Plain and simple. Also, if you weren't so bent on your ecclesiastical narcissism, you would of noticed this is a self moderating forum. Why? Because there is just a handful of active posters. With one active admin. If you really have a problem with me pointing out the obvious to you take it up with Votivesoul, the active admin. Other than that place me on ignore. I'm not your friend, you don't want friends because true friends won't always agree with you. You want spiderbots and that is all you get on this forum.