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Old 12-23-2025, 10:41 AM
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Re: Discrepancy in Church Practice

Don, you don’t stand an ice cube’s chance against your pastor and the church elders. You see Paul as being you. You have taken the Apostle and are attempting to build a structure around him according to your own understanding of your religion. Which is a hodgepodge of different forms of your own ecclesiastical thoughts. Let’s examine what the writer of Romans means when he uses the Greek word σθένος means to be without strength, also unhealthy. But, Paul isn’t calling these new converts unhealthy as sickly. He is calling them immature. They are novices. Which isn’t a fault of their own, but they need to be yoked up with Christ. Instead of a self-aggrandizing individual who wants to argue them into his own beliefs.

Romans 14:1-3 Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on his opinions. One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The one who eats everything must not belittle the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted him.

Paul is dealing with ministers, elders, and saints who are wanting to fast track these immature novices to their level. In Corinth Paul deals with the same issue.

Corinthians 8:9-13 Be careful, however, that your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak. For if someone with a weak conscience sees you, who have this knowledge, eating in an idol’s temple, will he not be emboldened to eat what is sacrificed to idols? So this weak brother, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. By sinning against your brothers in this way and wounding their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother to stumble, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause him to fall.

This also brings the parable of the sower into consideration. Paul is telling his brethren to check themselves that even through their behavior around the shambles that an immature saint could be lead astray. No one wants to be a weed, or a fowl of the air chocking the young plant, or devouring precious seed. The Apostle Peter was called on the carpet by Paul, because he was allowing his liberty to become hypocrisy.

Paul rebuked Peter publicly at Antioch (Galatians 2:11-14) because Peter stopped eating with Roman Judeans out of fear of Judean believers from Jerusalem, therefore undermining the truth that salvation comes by faith in Christ, not by just merely from “touch not, taste not” theology. Thereby creating a divisive and false impression that Romans, and Hellenized Judeans must become circumcised for full acceptance. Paul saw this as contradicting Christ's grace, which unites Judeans and Romans into one Nation of God, and leading others, including Barnabas, astray.

Whether or not the church you are currently attending accepts your mind, doesn’t mean they ever will. Peter learned and accepted Paul’s rebuke. As Peter agrees in his letter 2 Peter 3:14-18, And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Peter was a strong brother with full revelation. Yet, understood Paul (who was a newer elder) when Paul took Peter to the woodshed. Weaker brothers aren’t supposed to remain weaker for all their time in the church. They are dealt with on a case to case basis. Yet, believing that all organizations, pastors, preachers, the butcher, the baker, and the candlestick maker has to hand the pulpit to every thought and feeling just isn’t logical. You are in a church not “the Church” but a church, (I hope you understand) It is made up of people for the most part are cool with what they are being taught. Hey, you might have some folks who are open to your ideas. But, if you were to lead them off to your thoughts and feelings, what would you do with them? Open up a store front? Cram them into your living room? It might work, it might also end horribly wrong. You are supposedly going to hash it out with the preacher? Ok, tell us how that works out for you.
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