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...conclusion

3. Amills proclaim there will be no nations as we know them with mortal people.

Yet various scriptures in the Tanakh teach otherwise:

22: For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23: And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
24: And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh. Isaiah 66:22-24

Verse 24 speaks of Gehenna. The same place Jesus used to teach about the place of the fire judgment commonly called Hell. In the 1000 reign MORTALS defined as ALL FLESH shall come to worship YHWH. They will be given a view of Gehenna that will serve to show them the great power of YHWH and what happens to his enemies.

Impossible, because of the VERY SCRIPTURES YOU REFUSE TO COMMENT ABOUT in 1 Cor 15, where ALL ENEMIES of the Lord are vanquished at the rapture, especially death, the last one. This makes Isaiah's prophecy to speak of the events in the church age.

Similar scripture showing mortals living on Earth after the second coming.

16: And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17: And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18: And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19: This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. Zech. 14:16-19

You can SAY they speak of time after the church age, but 1 Cor 15 prohibits that IN THE VERSES YOU REFUSE TO RESPOND TO. And the above prophecy does not mention the second coming. You added that thought.

To scriptures like these they simply say "they don't mean what you think they mean".

"Simply say"? Ahh, no, my brother. They contradict 1 Cor 15 IF YOU ARE CORRECT. I detailingly compare these statements with what other scriptures disallow or allow. And since THE VERY SCRIPTURES YOU REFUSE TO RESPOND TO in 1 Cor 15 disallow them to speak of the Millennium, then they cannot speak of the millennium. The entire Bible must fit together, without contradiction, or we have evidence that our doctrine is wrong. Your refusal to respond proves your doctrine cannot stand. do not make it sound like I merely "SIMPLY SAY".

4. They say the book of Revelation has been fulfilled. Already came and went doing away with its relevance to at least 19 centuries of Christians. They say the beast was Nero in the first century. The Bible says the beast will be active killing Christians at the second coming of Jesus.

Incorrect. Nothing is said about the second coming. The second coming is the rapture and resurrection of the just.

11: And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12: His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13: And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14: And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15: And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16: And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
17: And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18: That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19: And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20: And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshiped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. Rev. 19:

Nothing is mentioned here of rapturing the church. Just FIGHTING nations. Judgment ALONE. And it is a spiritual fight since the WORD is symbolized as defeating, alone.

So unless the second coming happened while Nero ruled Rome he obviously was not the end time beast of Revelation.

Entirely wrong and actually ignorant of what we clearly stated about the second coming being rapture and the coming in Rev being localized judgment.

These concepts lead me to believe there will be a literal reign of Christ and the Saints on the Earth and that the book of Revelation has its main fulfillment in the future not in the past.

Cannot be since it contradicts 1 Cor 15.

Mfblume, I wish you no ill. You are a shining light in the matter of the Apostolic headcovering teaching as well as the truth of overcoming sin.

Hope one day you will come to greater understanding in this realm also. And may Jesus Christ our Lord guide all of us into all truth.

I wish you no ill will, neither. I appreciate your integrity on stands that others refuse to stand for. However, I would pray you see yourself and your inability as to why you will not deal with something that is very simply stated in two or three verses of 1 Cor 15. When we are honest with ourselves, we should be concerned that we cannot answer certain challenges of scripture. Why live and die for a belief system that is cornered with just a few verses, and sweep them beneath the carpet and pull out other verses that never really say anything explicit about the position in time in which we claim they are fulfilled?

One should be concerned that three or four verses can stump an entire doctrine in one area of itself, leaving it unable to stand despite the abundant elaborate use of other scriptures and issues involved in the doctrine.

Take care, and all the best!