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Originally Posted by stmatthew
While I agree that Prophecies do not fail in the sense you are saying, they do go unfulfilled because of certain conditions that may be connected with them. So I would say that prophecies are conditional upon our response to them. It does not mean God lied. And it does not mean a man lied.
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A conditional "prophesy" where someone is told "If you will go to such and such city then I will bless you with a building" and the person does not go, sure. But that's not really prophecy.
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But Again, I see a difference in the gift of prophecy, and the office of a Prophet.
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Depends on what we mean by office of the prophet. Men and women were called prophets in Acts because they gave prophecies
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The history of the "hit and miss Prophet" is that recently it was said that a Prophet was ok even if he missed it sometimes. So Prophet Jimbo could prophesy that God was going to raise up Sister SuzyQ off of her deathbed, and if she died it was ok. He just missed it on that one. He had previously prophesied that Carol Sue's wart would fall off, and it had. SO he was still a true prophet, even though his ratio was not 100%.
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What is happening when Jimbo the Prophet does that? Did he lie and invent it? Did he really receive a word from God? Did he receive a word and misunderstand it?
In the WOF movement they believe they don't need to hear from God, THEY have the power to prophecy. In other words if they say "money cometh" God is obligated to make it happen. That is contrary to biblical prophecy where God gives you the prophecy and you are supposed to relate that to the hearers