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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
Qualified COUNSELORS are a good thing to have in certain situations that come up.
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If they're basing their counseling on wicked worldly philosophies like psychology then they're not qualified!
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When my wife's mom died 15 years ago, she was attending bible college in Springfield, MO. She was allowed three days to leave to attend the funeral than was expected back, ready to go. Their idea of "counseling" was praying at the alter. And if you needed a bit more, why then you simply needed to pray more. Then she was actually reprimanded for skipping some classes during the next week.....
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Isn't Jesus the "Wonderful Counselor"?
That was her choice.
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Needless to say I have known many pastors and elders who are distinctly NOT qualified to help anyone who is truly hurting other than to maybe pray for them in silence while someone ELSE did the counseling.
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On what basis are you saying they're not qualified? On some wicked worldly philosophy like psychology? Are you saying that someone who is called by GOD to shepherd HIS flock is not qualified to counsel the saints? Are you saying the Church must defer to some wicked worldly philosophy - defer to an enemy of God - when it comes to counseling?
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We recently left a church because the then-new pastor had completely crazy idea's about marital relations. It makes my skin crawl to think about him actually "counseling" soon-to-be-wed couples!
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Crazy ideas according to whom? It only matters that the ideas were biblical (and I don't mean according to some 21st century American interpretation) and if they weren't biblical then he needs to be shown how they're not biblical. If you didn't show him his error then you did not fulfill your biblical responsibility in that regard.