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Originally Posted by Chan

Interesting. Rudy Giuliani said, "That's an extraordinary statement, as someone who lived through the attack of September 11, that we invited the attack because we were attacking Iraq. I don't think I've heard that before, and I've heard some pretty absurd explanations for September 11th."

Excuse me??? I don't recall Giuliani being in either of the two towers of the World Trade Center during the attack (or in any of the attached buildings closer to ground level). How is he "someone who lived through the attack"?

As mayor of New York Giuliani did "live through" the attacks. From more than 2000 miles away I felt that I had "lived through" the attacks. Giuliani was in a NYC Fire Department onsite command center on West Street when the towers collapsed. He had to escape the collapse of Tower One (the second tower to fall) through an underground pedestrian passage way with a Fire Chief and others.

What I find disingenuous about RP here is the way he says "we've been bombing Iraq for 10 years" (prior to the 2003 invasion). That statement alone is tantamount to a lie. It is intentionally worded in such a way as to create a false impression of the US mission after the first Gulf War.

The US "bombings" (usually just small HARM missiles that follow a radar signal to its source) were counter measures to suppress tracking radar and were used only when an individual coalition aircraft had been actively "locked on." It was always self defense on the part of the coalition pilots. To go out of your way and try to paint it as US aggression the way Ron Paul does is treasonous to the pilots whose lives were on the line. How do you think those pilots would feel about having RP as CINC?

And remember, those pilots were risking their lives under the direct authorization of the UN, NATO, the EU as well as their US commanders. Even the Arab League had backed the cease-fire agreements from 1992, authorizing those pilots to do the fly-overs and to defend themselves when necessary.

Who but an enemy of the United States would make a declaration like Ron Paul did? I'm sorry, but Ron Paul puts himself into the same camp as the Ward Churchills' and C. Clark Kissingers' of the world.

I don't know that I would vote for Rudy, but I know that he was at least on our side on September 11. I'm not so sure about whose side Ron Paul is on.