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Originally Posted by stmatthew
Dan,
I will post this publicly since this is where it started. No where in my post is there any statement that says you are lying or dishonest about this. I did not accuse you of lying. I never said that you were a liar. Please show me where I stated you were a liar? I did not even imply you were a liar. I stated that there was no lie.
(edited and added by Stmatt - I have taken counsel by someone I highly respect and they have talked to me on this situation. I want to make it clear that DAN IS NOT A LIAR. And I apologize for any implication of that being the case. I did not mean for that to be implied. A conversation occurred between an Admin and Dan where Dan felt that Admins word to him was broken because it was discussed in the admin area. My initial post, and this one as well, was in a very upset state over this because I felt Dan was taking a shot at the Admin, and though I did not see the implication of Dan being called dishonest, others do, and for that I am sorry. As I stated at the end of this post, I am happy to discuss this, not just privately, but here publicly)
See, the real issue is that behind the scenes you accuse an admin of lying, and then come on publicly and start this thread. To everyone out here that did not see the behind the scenes deal, it is just innocent questions. But to us Admin, it is both offensive and an insult. Whether someone keep their word to you or not, for you to start this thread after the event happened is WRONG. It became, whether you intended it to or not, a "hidden" slap in the face. This is what has me upset.
NOTE: You folks want openness and "full disclosure", well here is some full disclosure for you.
Dan, I will be happy to discuss this further in PM more with you if it is needed. I am considering it a closed deal on my end, as I have dealt with enough for one day.
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Matt....
While I do thank you for this...Dan did not "FEEL" anything....a member of the admin team openly said that if I asked them a question they I had their WORD it was confidential..I trusted a member of this admin team.....THEY lied to me...I felt nothing.
I am asking you to call it like it was....this person did break their word to me...not a "felt"...they DID>
I gave you my user name and password...go...read my pm's...they cant be altered.
BUT...I have always ...always said you are a man of integrity.
The reason I felt you implied I was lying was because you stated that you had "read all the pm's and NOWHERE was it stated that someone gave me their word.
That would imply I am making it up...henceforth..."lying".
I now prove otherwise with facts and you say I "felt".
Now...the SOLE purpose of the thread was not to take a shot at admin but to get the opinions of others (without facts) as to when a lie is justified.
You made it a public matter...not me.
You a good man and my friend....And Im proud to say a true Christian. Please dont take this personal.
Where does this stand with the member that has been proven to be untruthful.
If you wish to take this PM....no prob.