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Originally Posted by bishoph
My friend you obviously missed the heart of what I said. Preachers pounding the pulpit does very little, however, leadership that is visible and on purpose does a whole lot. A preacher can preach acceptance and diversity all he wants to, but until he lives it, it will produce very little change.
Secondly with your statement you are denying the transforming power of the Holy Ghost. When a person is filled with the Holy Ghost it will create a willingness in them to change when confronted with an issue. Peter was still a racist after having been filled with the holy Ghost on the day of Pentecost, however, it was that Holy Ghost that gave hime the power to change when confronted by God.
If an individual has recieved the Holy Ghost and attends a racist mentality church, he/she will still embrace that thinking until it is comfronted.
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what are you talking about?? According to us, a minor fraction of a community has the holy ghost... such a small fraction that it is almost meaningless...
Our ministers can preach things over our pulpits 'til they are blue in the fact and the spirit can move upon those in our churches all it wants, it isn't going to change the world until the world gets the spirit... a few hundred out of 50,000 (to take the city I live in as an example) is nice that they don't have racism, but it wouldn't change the racism of the 50,000...
Yeah, the individuals who have recieved the Holy Ghost can change, and that's great, but that's 20,000,000 people worldwide out of 7.5 billion and a ton less than 20,000,000 in the US out of 300+ million who aren't racist when pretty much everyone else, on some level, is (and most of us are a little bit, too)... Great, now what?
God can only help those who want to be helped... Now we could take the messages of people like Dr. Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. and other preachers who preach tolerance and church organizations who preach against racism... But, see, to see God in what they do we'd have to admit that thier gospel isn't evil and they aren't all going to hell...
and, well, if they're gospel is gonna get them to heaven what's the point of us being different??? Why all the pounding of our pulpits agianst trinitarians and against everyone else if they're following God still??
OH WAIT!! We dislike trinitarians and we preach against them for the same reasons that psycho white supremacists preach against black people, we dislike them because they are different than we are... We just find justification for it becuase we think they have false doctrine...
Like I said, it is in human nature to dislike the other, and we haven't beaten human nature yet... and niether has the world...
The Holy Ghost can transform us, yeah, but we have to want it...