[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by Steadfast

Well, Apprehended, you obviously are in disagreement with my belief that it was a matter of 'you've pushed me far enough; I'm not being pushed any further.' I genuinely believe it and will continue to believe it (even if some claim that is a lie as well).

If you are so adamant about them being 'cut off' then Tulsa isn't your problem... it's your answer.

I may not be among the Tulsa group... but I stand confident in their right to align themselves with those whose value system more closely matches theirs.

To allow anything less is to deny God the right to put those values in them.

God bless the Tulsa crowd with great Apostolic revival. I can only hope the UPC has a mighty outpouring as well.

Thanks for your response.

I certainly agree that they have a constitutional right.

Whatever happened to the principle of submission? Or whatever happend to the principle of "obey them that have the rule over you." Whatever happened to the idea of humility when everything does not go "MY" way?

If there are powers that are ordained of God, as all of these bretheren teach, what is so objectionable to submitting to that power? If we are going to CONTEND for the faith that was once delivered unto the saints, before whom are we going to contend...the world? No. We must contend for THAT faith before all of whom is departing from that faith.

Jude 4 makes that plain..."For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness..." Little good it does for preachers to preach to preachers who all preach the same thing, unless of course they are just trying to see who can strut the most and outdo each other.

Your prayer that God bless the Tulsa crowd is mine as well. Hopefully, the Lord will lead them to believe and to accept the doctrine of submission, humility and unity, even when everything does not go their way.

Again, thanks for your response.