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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Thanks.
In truth, I do not agree that pastors should be able to run churches like they own them, nor do I feel it's right for a pastor to get up in the pulpit and make sudden and drastic changes to the standards and mores of existing, established churches.
However, the danger I see is that when that does happen, and it will, many congregations don't know how to deal with it Biblically.
In nearly every other area of our lives, we are taught to "stand still and see the salvation of the Lord", we're taught to "Trust God and HE will work it out", we're taught that "No weapon formed against us shall prosper", etc.
So, if we TRULY believe those scriptures, and we TRULY believe the principles of submission that God has set forth in scripture, we understand that if the pastor is wrong, God will take care of it. And, if God is not moving quickly enough for us, and we truly believe that our salvation and the salvation of our children is in danger, then WE need to walk away.
There is PLENTY of scripture that condones walking away from those who walk in darkness, there is plenty of scripture where people couldn't agree and parted ways, and both stayed saved...........there is plenty of scripture encouraging us to fellowship with likeminded believers. Nothing wrong with making an amiable split, in my opinion.
However, I still can't find scripture that condones, or even allows, the congregation to overthrow the pastor.
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Sorry brother but this bull feathers.
Here's a scenario for you Br Phelps:
A congregation of 125 regular worshipers just finished paying off their 2 million dollar property.
Their pastor retires and the church elects a new pastor.
This new pastor is all swell for about a year. Then he begins to preach theat cut hair is OK tatoo's are OK.
Just say the "Sinner's prayer" and you'll be saved.
Baptism is OK if you want to , otherwise it's not necesary.
This new pastor has not invested dollar one in this assembly, the membership is very upset with this new fangled teaching.
BUT Br Phelps thay are to be quiet or just walk away from the church THEY built ACCORDING to YOU and give it over to this PASTOR just because he is part of the five fold ministry?????
This pastor on a clergy class pedastal thing we have going today came out of the Catholic Church. it was not a part of the NT church.....they ALL were fellow laborers in the kingdom of God.