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Originally Posted by Maple Leaf

When I read Steadfast's post, I never thought for a moment that he was referring to UPC churches when he gave the three specific examples: shacking up; questioning Jesus name baptism; and social drinking. Usually, when a UPC preacher uses the term "so called Apostolic churches," he is referring to ex-UPC congregations.

If these three points were used as part of his argument in favour of Tulsa, they form a pretty weak argument as I expect the incidents of such churches within the UPC would be so small as to be inconsequential.



I find it strange that anybody got "homosexual" from "shacking up." I have never heard the term "shacking up" applied to homosexuals. The term is generally applied to people living together without the benefit of a marriage covenant, and marriage for homosexuals is a relatively new practice.




Again, in the post that I quoted, Steadfast did not say that the pastor was UPC or from Texas; neither did he say that she was ministering on the platform.

Steadfast said that she shacked up without backsliding. You've made the jump from there to Jezebel having the support of a UPC pastor. I think that it is more likely that she was sitting on the pew, claiming salvation, unrebuked - a totally different matter than ministering on the platform.



Now, that's a matter entirely between you and Steadfast.

Been reading this thread and have been amazed at what appears to be some misunderstading.

Maple Leaf...I think you have writely discerned the written word here.

Kudos to you !!