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Old 06-07-2008, 05:34 PM
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne View Post
God only gives T&I in regard to decisions that the UPC leaders and elders make? LOL!

Now, why can't the UPC recommend ways to watch safe programming? And why do they just recommend instead of require? If they required, perhaps their own wouldn't be falling as they are, i.e. park rendezvous and internet affairs.

I have yet to hear of a minister, pastor, or even just a saint fall into sin over having a TV. Not one divorce or adulterous affair have I ever heard come from the watching of the tube.

Why hasn't God told the ALJC crowd in a T&I that TV is wrong? Don't they have the same spirit we do?

Perhaps the interpreters aren't willing. Yeah, that must be it.
God only gives T&I in regard to decisions that the UPC leaders and elders make?

I never said that - what i did say is that regarding 1 decision that the UPC leaders/elders made decades ago, it was accompanied by tongues and interpretation basically supporting the decision.

While I and my Pastor both agree that there are some good things on tv, there is also much bad. And once you find something good and wholesome on tv, next thing you know there is a commercial with a half-naked lady advertising whatever.

The following link, from a UPC site endorsing an internet tool for safe browsing, contains some interesting information/confessions/statistics - http://bsafeupci.com/why_filtering.asp

Does the same context exist on cable tv? Yes it does.

But each person is going to have to come to a decision on their own. As for me, my mind is made up. I've gone from a strict UPC church, to a very, very loose apostolic church pastored by someone who started the church partly because they were publicly rebuked for committing adultery. Did I own/watch tv in the loose church? Yes I did. I experimented with watching a lot of stuff, then I experimented with only trying to watch sports, news, nature stuff, etc; and I also experimented fasting completely from tv in the loose church. After all of my experimenting, I concluded that I was much stronger doing without tv. Incidentally, God lead me back to the strict UPC church where I was originally born again, and things have been going great. Incidentally, I don't watch tv there either.

Lots of people claim to have the Spirit, even me when I was a trinitarian, easy-believism, talk-in-tongues-anytime-I-wanted-to, pentecostal. But I can tell you now since I was born again apostolic, that I did NOT have the real thing back then - beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Not everyone who claims the Spirit has the Spirit.

God bless.
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