[MikeinAR]

Very, very good questions and I'm looking forward to the responses. I personally don't support all of those methods for a lot of the reasons you point out. As always, the proof is in the results and if people are reached for Christ and start in the faith, that's great.

My problem is where do we draw the line? If we have to have smoke machines and strobe lights and mosh pits, where do we go next when the effect of all of that wears off? Where are the limits to drawing people to hear the message?