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Old 07-03-2008, 04:43 PM
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Re: Thief on the Cross: A New Covenant Believer?

Scotty I have a question for you. God told Abraham to go sacrifice his son on a mountain of Moriah...he had to obey we all agree.

But was he believing God before he got to the Mt or was he believing only after he finished doing what God said?

Why can't someone be a believer before baptism with the full intent on obeying the command to be baptized and they go through with it?

Clearly if someone says they believe but do not obey they never were believing
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