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Old 07-03-2008, 04:54 PM
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Re: Thief on the Cross: A New Covenant Believer?

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Originally Posted by scotty View Post
That is a question I have pondered myself. Did he go up on the mountain believing God would spare his son or did he go up out of pure obedience, ready to accept whatever God chose?

I may not be understanding what it is your asking, I do not see why someone can not believe prior to baptism. But I also do not think that believing alone will save you.
My point is Abraham believed even before he finished doing what God commanded. The fact he was going to do what God commanded was evidence he DID believe.

So a person can be a believer even before the do "Everything" that the bible says to do, yet are doing them/in the process of doing them.
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