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Re: This is for all the Trinity haters out there
[QUOTE=JTULLOCK;586176]True. But you are making light of this.
BELIEVE ME I am not making light of this at all. If I was I certainly would not be referring to the martyrdom of faithful men and women of God in reference to the question.
This is a valid question. I see that my motivation for asking was true. Some Apostolics are taught to hate the 'trinity' so bad that they make it apparently known.
I have no problems with kids named Mohammed or anything else.
That of course would be because you are far removed from the violence that is done to your brethren fellow christians by disciples of Mohammed. If you were a little closer to the issue say living in Jordan or Syria and you as a Christian asked this question the silence would be deafening! Names mean things, and again Trinity defines a godhead doctrine that originates in Platos trinitas and has been responsible century after century as the test of orthodoxy whereby men and women boys and girls have payed with their lives for denying. You think I treat that as a Light Issue?
This is hilarious! As one of several on here that know that God's nature is Triune another question comes to mind. God is Triune and you hate the trinity then is God happy with you?
Friend the trinity definitely is NOT a biblical doctrine of God. It IS the name of the doctrine formulated first (among Christians) by Tertullian as a binatarian doctrine which he later appended under pressure to include the Holy Ghost as a third person and then formalized in the following centuries at several councils of the Imperial Church. It IS the defining doctrine used to obliterate tens of thousands if not MORE down through the centuries in horrific persecutions. OR didnt you know that? I mean maybe you ARE unaware of that, which certainly would make your question a lot less troubling.
I mean I would think that if you hate the nature of God then that wouldn't make him happy, but that is just me.
The nature of God is that he is ONE. That he is the HOLY ONE. That he ALONE is God.
Would you name your kid oneness? Probably so cause it seems that some people in this movement love to glorify what they believe more than glorify the one in whom they believe.
That statement seems pretty inconsistent from a man who seriously considered doing pretty much the same thing dont you think? (Just substitute the word Trinity in your question for oneness and you'll catch my drift)
Remember the sond "I am a Penetcostal"? All self glorification, IMO.
That certaily would be your opinion, but I thouroughly enjoyed a song that says
If your tired of tradition Religions done you wrong
You're feeling dry and empty No longer have a song
The story is not over Things for you can change
You'll feel the fire burning as the spirit fans the flame
There's millions who have come
and Millions on the way they're leaving their dead churches for
This Pentecostal Faith
no that song THRILLED me! No more self glorifying than singing I am my beloveds my beloved is mine and his banner over me is love...."I'm a child of the King" Or "I AM A FRIEND OF GOD!" OR I'm so glad I'm a part of the Family of God."
You know there is a phrase common amongst the Jews who tire of other Jews who are always so negative about their own people. Picking, ridiculing, mocking their OWN people! They call them "Self Hating Jews" I sadly see this same trait among so many MANY on this forum. Whats the deal Neal? Why do YOU think that is?
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The chorus to the above song I'm a Pentecostal and I am not ashamed! Is merely an affirmation that although some people may feel that the Pentecostal message is a shame and (evidently there are some "Pentecostals" who secretly or openly feel that way Too) the singers DO NOT and a bold proclamation of their UNASHAMEDNESS in the defining doctrines of Jesus Church on the New Birth is certainly anything BUT something to be ashamed of. I mean ashamed of Being baptized in Jesus Name? Filled with the Holy Ghost? Apostolic?ONE GOD? ASHAMED?????Not this kid!
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