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Originally Posted by deacon blues
You say you arent making the guilt by association argument, but the principle is there. (1) Its a little hard to justify condemning McCain for the shouts of strangers in a crowd and pooh-poohing the relationships Obama has with very radical people.
(2) For every kook shouting nonesense at a McCain/Palin rally, there are dozens of Hollywood celebrities that are pathetically attacking the GOP ticket with very crude humor, angry remarks and distasteful suggestions. I haven't heard Obama repudiating these. In fact he gladly receives their support and donations.
If McCain had been in any way associated with Timothy McVey ten or teanty years ago, do you think the liberal media and the Democrats would be leaving it alone? (3) These relationships were not "brief" as you suggest. They were intertwined in Chicago area politics and community projects. And it should be brought up to stop him from being elected---especially since the Obama campaign seems very defensive about it, and that Obama lied in saying that Ayers was"just a man who lived in my neighborhood." If such an inconsequential relationship, why lie about it?
Lies and obfuscation are red flag warnings to me from anyone who wants to be president.
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Hey Deacon,
(1) I did not condemn Sen. McCain in this thread.
(2) Outside of Bernhardt, I haven't heard of anyone advocating any kind of violence towards any of the candidates.
The Hollywood folks you are talking about are NOT in Sen. Obama's face, or at one of his rallies shouting epithets of race and violence. One can't address everything, but if it's happening right in front of you and you're supposed to be a leader, then you should take charge of that situation.
(3) If Sen. Obama is lying, then he needs to be held accountable for his lies and Americans will hold him accountable by simply not voting for him.