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Originally Posted by Newman
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but the facts need to be gotten straight.
1. The Birth certificate issue was NEVER settled.
2. The state of Hawaii did not affirm that Obama was born there. The exact statement made was short of saying that.
3. Someone put up a certification of birth on Obama's website which forensic experts have shown with great detail why it is obviously fraudulent.
4. Hawaii NEVER CLAIMED HE WAS BORN ON AMERICAN SOIL.
5. One of the lawsuits the Supreme Court is looking at doesn't care where Obama was born given that his website already ADMITTED to a dual British citizenship which their position argues is proof that Obama is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. They maintain that duel citizenship is opposite of Natural born citizenship because one might harbor divided loyalties.
~The founding fathers grandfathered themselves as exceptions to the rule since they were all British citizens initially~
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I appreciate the dialog.
Below is a quote from one of the folks who are still attacking President elect Obama:
"Don't be distracted by the birth certificate and Indonesia issues.
They are irrelevant to Senator Obama's ineligibility to be President. Since Barack Obama's father was a Citizen of Kenya and therefore subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of Senator Obama's birth, then Senator Obama was a British Citizen 'at birth', just like the Framers of the Constitution, and therefore,
even if he were to produce an original birth certificate proving he were born on US soil, he still wouldn't be eligible to be President.
The Framers of the Constitution, at the time of their birth, were also British Citizens and that's why the Framers declared that, while they were Citizens of the United States, they themselves were not "natural born Citizens".
His attackers are motivated out of partisan politics, and maybe more. BUt whatever their motivations, it isn't good.
Quote from TStew on another thread:
Got it? The argument is that even if he was born in the U.S., his daddy was an immigrant, so he can't be president. Donofrio in fact "concedes Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii."
So yeah, it is settled: President elect Obama was born on American soil.
Thus, he is an American.