[gloryseeker]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Thanks for your comment.

First, I don't believe in "not" tithing. I just believe God wants "ALL".

I agree and I think that this is the core of it all. My guess is, those who argue that there is no tithe are not giving very much at all and while a counting game is not my goal we do invest in what we believe in.

When the average Christians struggles with 10% but spends more than that on their car payment, house payment, food bill it speaks of what is important to them.

I believe in the tithe, but more than that I believe in the all.

I refuse to be drawn into the Pharisiacal way of living, cutting, dividing, chopping, and limiting God who saved me from a horrible pit. I will wind up in the den of thieves if I get out my balances. When my nature is bound by "counting", God moves to the back seat. When are we going to realize this. Those that were rebuked severely by Jesus, tithed. They were lost. They were bound. They did it "right", but they were dead wrong.

You have a good point, but the reason Jesus rebuked was not because of the tithe, but because of the attitude, focus, and lack of love or mercy.

I recently talked to a man who so much didn't want to fit in the box of Christianity because God is not in a box. While I agree with his premise that God is not in a box and when we create a box we lock out God he then took what was good and brought it to error.

His reasoning went on that God is not bound by a clock. Amen to that. So he determined whether we start our church at 10:00 a.m. or 10:07a.m. wasn't relevant because God doesn't operate by our clock.

True, but where he was wrong is in the fact that God is not going to have a powerful move of the Spirit at 6:00 a.m. on Sunday morning because no one will be at church. On the other side when we say we are going to start at 10:00 and don't start until 10:07 we are now dealing with an integrity issue. So he was confusing two different issues.

You are doing the same thing. Counting is not the goal, but if you look at your giving (counting) as a percentage of your life you will see where your focus is. Are you really willing to give all or is it just great Christian speak?

The Lord brought me out to give me His Name. My Family is Him. My love is His. He can have anything He wants, anytime, anyplace, without question. This is how I treat my wife, and dare I not give my Maker and my God more?

I agree with that 100% and a lot of Christians and those on this thread would give a BIG AMEN! But is it true?

About 8 weeks ago the Lord told us to give our car to this elderly couple (man is not saved) who needed it. I'm not talking about a old junker either. We did! They said it was the nicest car they ever owned. Before I gave it to them I filled up the tank with gas (about $50), I got it washed, I had the tires aligned, and I paid the transfer fees. He told me to "give" it to them.

When we are as you say then we will do as God directs. Jesus shed His blood for the world and it takes money to get this gospel out. Tight waded Christian with fancy talk (not saying you are this way) who give 2% or 5% of what God has blessed them with isn't going to cut it.

I am not saying you are this way. From your posts that I have read you seem to have a very sincere heart and communicate it well. But most Christians are poverty minded and their giving reflects it even though they say God is in control of their life.

What God controls gives....because love gives and God is love.

[quote]Marriage is an all out commitment. It's everything. This is what God wants from us, this is why we are considered His Bride. We need to discover the Lord in His fullness, and we will never do this if we only give Him 10%. 10% is the American way, not God's. You can have this Lord, but the rest is MINE! God's way is ALL, just ask His disciples. Just ask the rich young ruler. Ask those of the early Church. [\quote]

100% agreed, but when He has all He will use it to reach the world with His message.

It's amazing how Christians struggle giving 10% to Master Jesus, but have no problem giving far more to Master Card

People wonder why tithing is not mentioned in the New Testament.

It is read your Bible

It's easy; God married us and now it's EVERYTHING! This will set us free.

Salvation is free everything else will cost you greatly. Serving God is not free, but you have to be free to serve God. The most difficult area of being free is financially free.

Seriously, look at your checkbook and whatever your balance is can you bring it to your church so they can accomplish what they are trying to do, could you give it to a missionary so they could stay on the field. Can you give it all?

Write a check, have zero left until next month! I've done it! I do it! I bring the tithe and I bring the offering, there are foreign churches that exist because I not only pray for them, but help them.

Those who oppose the tithe won't do this, but from your comment below it appears that you can agree with me on this

I love Him with my all. Jesus, may you know today, my heart holds nothing back. I've given it before and I'll do it again. My fear is not in losing the things that mean the most to me in this life; It's in losing You.

God Bless, NFS