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Originally Posted by areyourucky
seems like things keep getting redefined. I the 1980s we left a church because holyness went out the window,, then 8 years later the same thing happened to our new church.Is there any more holyness churches left, and proud they are. Seems holyness can be preached well in smaller churches,but once membership gets over 200, then things change. they say it is not about numbers, and i know no one wants people to leave. But the bible says many are called, but few are chossen. Why have many members, but no one is commited. I noticed that hardly any churches any more have alters, and no one does foot washing any more, espeically in large churches. The larger the church, the better chance of no alters and no foot washing. If there are no more alters. I noticed many churches get rid of the alters, now to make room for large , high and lifted up platforms to seat men of honour, and great preforming praise singers.
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redefining is something that MUST be done every generation for a religious movement to continue.
I believe there are lots of holiness churches around. Pride goes before destruction....and so does the church or church lead who takes "pride" in their holiness. It could be said that to have pride is to not be holy.
Many are called, but few are choosen??? This has nothing at all to do with holiness.
Altars are a traditon from men...unless you mean an actual Bar-B-Q pit where animals are burnt.
Regarding footwashing...I believe the point Jesus was making had to do with service and humility. While I see nothing wrong with the tradition....I think teaching & practicing service with humility will see a better result.
Lastly....regarding large churches....what makes a church large? short answer...lots of people. People matter to God. So I do not see any reason why He would want us to have small churches...or churches with very few people.