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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
Let's compare heart disease to obesity instead of abortions.
Would you be willing to put yourself on the line and state that it's lifestyle over genetics that is responsible for heart disease today?
You'd be wrong. You are also incorrect that obesity is mostly due to people making bad choices or overeating. That's what all the skinny people think, but it's far from the truth.
It's also not bad choices, but different lifestyles that are also responsible. People 100 years ago were thinner, but guess what? The average life expectancy was 47. Yes, people died of heart failure while in their 40's.
We also have processed foods, instant everything, and we are more busy and don't exercise like we should.
But back to genetics. You mentioned other countries where people are thinner. Well, that tells you right there genetics is involved, in addition to other lifestyles.
Look at families in your church. Ever notice that fatter kids tend to have fat parents? Skinny kids have skinny parents? I challenge you to find out if both families actually share the same lifestyle, but because of genetics, they 'process' life totally different.
Also, there are other diseases that make people large. Type 2 diabetes is one. Congestive heart failure is another. Mostly anything heart related will cause people to gain weight. Underactive thyroid will also cause it.
There are so many variables, so we cannot rightly judge people for being obese due to bad lifestyle choices when we just don't know. And for most, even those who refuse to leave the buffet on Sunday afternoon, we still don't know what made them that way. Obese people aren't the only ones that can't say no to the buffet.
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First, for the record, I personally hold no grudge against the fat ones. I love, respect and recognize all members of God's church, and have been there myself. Please do not misconstrue my opinions on obesity's causality as hate speech. That said, I do have some knowledge in this area which leads me to my position. See, I have what is called a mesomorphic body type. We are the ones who gain both fat and muscle very easily. Some we call us the stocky ones. I have personally fought for my skinny, studied out and practiced weight control, human biology, nutrition and bodybuilding seriously for many years. I found that if we eat and are active in the way God designed us to be, diseases don't just happen, and neither will obesity (God forbid I crown that condition as a disease). To use the aforementioned paradigm, any bodybuilder will tell you that genetics, indeed, are a big factor in their sport. However, while they do dictate the level of effort required to achieve a "fighting" physique, they do not bind an individual to be one way or the other. If there is one thing I do hate, and one philosophy I love debunking it is
determinism. While I do not disagree that a person may be more at risk for heart disease if their grandparents have it, that doesn't mean it's not preventable or curable using the resources God gave us. And, yes, I concede that different peoples of the world do indeed have different genetics, yes. People from Ghana are better runners and Japanese people are like human calculators. (Does that sound right to you?) So, do we conclude that only Anglo's and Mexican's have the fat gene? No, I say the fat kid is probably fat because his parents eat fat food, and the government doensn't make us eat processed foods either! (yet)
Please do not be offended, I say this all love and in the spirit of friendly debate! If someone can convince me that fat just happens, I'll believe you! It just may take a bit more work.
Still @Peace.