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Old 02-12-2009, 09:28 AM
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Re: Is Obesity a Sin?

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Originally Posted by @Peace View Post
First, for the record, I personally hold no grudge against the fat ones. I love, respect and recognize all members of God's church, and have been there myself. Please do not misconstrue my opinions on obesity's causality as hate speech. That said, I do have some knowledge in this area which leads me to my position. See, I have what is called a mesomorphic body type. We are the ones who gain both fat and muscle very easily. Some we call us the stocky ones. I have personally fought for my skinny, studied out and practiced weight control, human biology, nutrition and bodybuilding seriously for many years. I found that if we eat and are active in the way God designed us to be, diseases don't just happen, and neither will obesity (God forbid I crown that condition as a disease). To use the aforementioned paradigm, any bodybuilder will tell you that genetics, indeed, are a big factor in their sport. However, while they do dictate the level of effort required to achieve a "fighting" physique, they do not bind an individual to be one way or the other. If there is one thing I do hate, and one philosophy I love debunking it is determinism. While I do not disagree that a person may be more at risk for heart disease if their grandparents have it, that doesn't mean it's not preventable or curable using the resources God gave us. And, yes, I concede that different peoples of the world do indeed have different genetics, yes. People from Ghana are better runners and Japanese people are like human calculators. (Does that sound right to you?) So, do we conclude that only Anglo's and Mexican's have the fat gene? No, I say the fat kid is probably fat because his parents eat fat food, and the government doensn't make us eat processed foods either! (yet)



Please do not be offended, I say this all love and in the spirit of friendly debate! If someone can convince me that fat just happens, I'll believe you! It just may take a bit more work.

Still @Peace.
Not offended in the least.

But there are cultures of people who are predispositioned, like Hispanics, blacks, and Greeks, to have more body fat. The diseases that are high on the fatality list for those cultures are directly related to it as well, but even those who don't follow the fat 'protocol' can still die from the strokes and heart diseases. On the same token, there are people from those cultures who don't and instead die from old age. It's the luck of the draw, but statistically, they will fall into the normalcy of life and death according to their culture, regardless of the lifestyle they lead.

But, let's look at the European white folks, like Danes, Scots, and Finnys. They are a culture of thin people. They don't statistically have the diseases that end their lives prematurely. Many of them live to be in their 100's. Their culture is one where they eat to live, not live to eat, and they aren't caught up in so much that America is.

So, let's talk about America...a nation made up of all cultures. This is our biggest problem. We have introduced lifestyles that are detrimental to most of us. We live a lazy life and eat without a care in the world. This introduces diseases that are then passed on through the generations so that, even if our decendents don't follow suit, they inherit the genes that will take their lives much sooner than they'd like.

Now, let's go back to offenses. What offends me is people who will judge someone based on what their appearance is. To say that a fat man standing behind the pulpit talking about food makes you sick is offensive. It's also a horrible thing to say. I don't care to ever meet nor be friends with such people.
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