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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Absolutely ... as this prisoners have.... but again ... it is a baptism that identifies with the person of Jesus Christ .... calling upon the name of the Lord ... an idiom for placing faith in Him ...
Lives submitted to Christ ... will be baptized ... and follow ALL OF HIS COMMANDMENTS, LIZ but to make this transformation as being caused by a properly administered baptism ... as you are obviously suggesting .... is a slap in the face of scores of prisoners who have had their lives TOTALLY TRANSFORMED by the power of God's Spirit and have not had the same baptismal experience as you, Liz.
Your suggestion to Margie that somehow they've had a nice experience but don't have all God has for them ... is based only on your perception ... and not the obvious, VISIBLE testimony of their own lives.
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Yes I do think a properly adminstered baptism could absolutely make a difference.
If did not matter how a baptism was adminstered then why would have Paul
rebaptized the believers in Acts. 19
Daniel you are injecting things into this conversation that are not entirely true. I am sure what Margie is saying is true, but we have men out of prison are some are still struggling. -Lets be true to the word of God, not necessarily my experience in baptism as you put.
But you can not take my experience away from me Daniel. I have been clean and sober for 25 yrs! I been to other churches had other baptisms-but nothing like
Acts 2:38. Sorry I am going to tell my testimony over and over again! Guess what, we will baptize someone again on Sunday-in a way that you do not seem to agree with anymore, Daniel.
Ok, what is confusing me as an admin and a poster is why are we having to defend Jesus Name baptism on this forum? This should be a given.
As far as 'slapping' other prisoners in face as you put it--you are looking at the wrong way entirely. Baptism in Jesus name does not take away from what a person already has but adds to it.