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Originally Posted by Elizabeth
Yes I do think a properly adminstered baptism could absolutely make a difference.
If did not matter how a baptism was adminstered then why would have Paul
rebaptized the believers in Acts. 19
Daniel you are injecting things into this conversation that are not entirely true. I am sure what Margie is saying is true, but we have men out of prison are some are still struggling. -Lets be true to the word of God, not necessarily my experience in baptism as you put.
But you can not take my experience away from me Daniel. I have been clean and sober for 25 yrs! I been to other churches had other baptisms-but nothing like Acts 2:38. Sorry I am going to tell my testimony over and over again! Guess what, we will baptize someone again on Sunday-in a way that you do not seem to agree with anymore, Daniel.
Ok, what is confusing me as an admin and a poster is why are we having to defend Jesus Name baptism on this forum? This should be a given.
As far as 'slapping' other prisoners in face as you put it--you are looking at the wrong way entirely. Baptism in Jesus name does not take away from what a person already has but adds to it. |
Liz they were rebaptized because they had been baptized unto John ....
in
Acts 19 ...
They were subsequently baptized INTO THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST ... into the person of Christ....
This is in stark contrast to you and a trinitarian, today ... both placing faith in Christ for their salvation.
A person baptized in ceremony naming the titles is placing faith in Jesus Christ in the same manner as you did ... NO DIFFERENCE.
I take nothing away from your experience but I think it is you that are taking away from those who have a "properly administered baptism" which you cannot validate makes a difference or adds .... in the person's Sprit-led walk... either anectdotally or scripturally. Other than those you've been in contact with while there are others who have similar success stories without your type experience.
You don't need to defend Jesus name baptism, Liz. I believe it ... and practice it. My church does too.
But don't confuse your one revelation with the salvation only Christ affords ... nor your personal experience as normative for others.
Normative initiation ... I'll accept ... normative "replicative" experiences ... with superior type baptisms adding to a birth in and by His Spirit ... nope.