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Old 02-20-2009, 03:30 PM
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Re: Jail house Christianity and Jesus Name People

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea View Post
Liz they were rebaptized because they had been baptized unto John ....
in Acts 19 ...
They were subsequently baptized INTO THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST ... into the person of Christ....

This is in stark contrast to you and a trinitarian, today ... both placing faith in Christ for their salvation.

A person baptized in ceremony naming the titles is placing faith in Jesus Christ in the same manner as you did ... NO DIFFERENCE.

I take nothing away from your experience but I think it is you that are taking away from those who have a "properly administered baptism" which you cannot validate makes a difference or adds .... in the person's Sprit-led walk... either anectdotally or scripturally. Other than those you've been in contact with while there are others who have similar success stories without your type experience.

You don't need to defend Jesus name baptism, Liz. I believe it ... and practice it. My church does too.

But don't confuse your one revelation with the salvation only Christ affords ... nor your personal experience as normative for others.

Normative initiation ... I'll accept ... normative "replicative" experiences ... with superior type baptisms adding to a birth in His Spirit ... nope.
I could be wrong, but I find it a rare thing for someone to be calling on the name of Jesus while going down in the titles, of course the same could be said for those be baptized in Jesus name, my hope is that this changes to where the baptizee is instructed to call on the name of Jesus before baptism.

Hard to do while going under, but maybe with technology that can happen sometime soon.
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