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Originally Posted by Neck
So as for tithing there are no first fruits.
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The concept of "first fruit," biblically speaking, refers to an
INCREASE from fields, orchards, vineyards, flocks and herds. The word of God
at no time ever defined wages as a form of
INCREASE.
I can't for the life of me figure out why the tradition of
transposition was ever allowed to set in by the general Christian populace. The
false teachings that attempt to transpose
WAGES over into the arena of
INCREASE, in relation to how the word of God defines an
INCREASE, continues to this very day....unabated! Why?
Wages are a direct EXCHANGE of money for one's labor and skills.
INCREASE, as defined by the Bible, is that which comes forth because of the mechanisms God created in nature itself, such as a single seed multiplying 20, 50, 100, and sometimes even 1000 times.
That has nothing to do with wages EXCHANGED for labor and skills. Such a comparison is apples to oranges.
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So since mid 2007 there has been zero increase...
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Even if you had been in the black in your earnings, God's word nowhere defines that as an increase from which one must tithe. Even ancient Israel was not required to tithe to the Levites from their earned wages.
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But many will preach that the check I receive are the first fruits...
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That's the earmark of a false teacher. Why not challenge such people on biblical grounds. I do, and they hate me with a passion....which is (stereotypically speaking) the usual code among all false teachers.
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The first fruits actually are tied to my networth of which a tithe was already paid.
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Paid? In what sense? Are you saying that you OWE a tithe? To whom, or what?
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So again since Dec 2006 there have been no first fruits to bring to the storehouse....
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Storehouse? What
storehouse? Are you saying that your religious
church organization is some sort of
storehouse? How so? Please elaborate.
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The Jew did not bring their income forward on a weekly, bi-weekly or monthly basis.
They did at the beginning of each year and only once per year.
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Not the cobblers, fishermen, carpenters, or any other wage earner. Jesus and his family didn't tithe to the Levites. It was only the farmers and ranchers who did that. We need to keep the true image of reality before our eyes when making such statements.
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But yet I am still preached to that I should give 10% from my check!
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Yes, and such preaching is based upon a false premise that most congregant members are too lazy to lookup and see for themselves that such men are false teachers, and therefore not worthy of receiving ANYTHING from the congregation. Such men need to get a REAL job, and thus become productive citizens rather than dead weights and leeches who teach false doctrine from behind a pulpit.
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Which is not equal to the custom from the OT in any light or doctrine...
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Then why say that you "paid"?
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God is first, the fact is there has been "no" increase!
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The man who had only nine lambs or only nine calves born in a year was not required to tithe. The man whose fields produced only enough to feed his family in a year was not required to tithe on account of no increase. The increase was based ONLY upon that which was above and beyond what it took to feed one's family in a year AND what it would take to replant the crop in the following year. The Lord at no time demanded that the Israelites practice
impoverished giving, such as is the usual drone of modern-day
prosperity teachers.