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Originally Posted by SwordmanJr
The concept of "first fruit," biblically speaking, refers to an INCREASE from fields, orchards, vineyards, flocks and herds. The word of God at no time ever defined wages as a form of INCREASE.
I can't for the life of me figure out why the tradition of transposition was ever allowed to set in by the general Christian populace. The false teachings that attempt to transpose WAGES over into the arena of INCREASE, in relation to how the word of God defines an INCREASE, continues to this very day....unabated! Why?
Wages are a direct EXCHANGE of money for one's labor and skills. INCREASE, as defined by the Bible, is that which comes forth because of the mechanisms God created in nature itself, such as a single seed multiplying 20, 50, 100, and sometimes even 1000 times. That has nothing to do with wages EXCHANGED for labor and skills. Such a comparison is apples to oranges.
Even if you had been in the black in your earnings, God's word nowhere defines that as an increase from which one must tithe. Even ancient Israel was not required to tithe to the Levites from their earned wages.
That's the earmark of a false teacher. Why not challenge such people on biblical grounds. I do, and they hate me with a passion....which is (stereotypically speaking) the usual code among all false teachers.
Paid? In what sense? Are you saying that you OWE a tithe? To whom, or what?
Storehouse? What storehouse? Are you saying that your religious church organization is some sort of storehouse? How so? Please elaborate.
Not the cobblers, fishermen, carpenters, or any other wage earner. Jesus and his family didn't tithe to the Levites. It was only the farmers and ranchers who did that. We need to keep the true image of reality before our eyes when making such statements.
Yes, and such preaching is based upon a false premise that most congregant members are too lazy to lookup and see for themselves that such men are false teachers, and therefore not worthy of receiving ANYTHING from the congregation. Such men need to get a REAL job, and thus become productive citizens rather than dead weights and leeches who teach false doctrine from behind a pulpit.
Then why say that you "paid"?
The man who had only nine lambs or only nine calves born in a year was not required to tithe. The man whose fields produced only enough to feed his family in a year was not required to tithe on account of no increase. The increase was based ONLY upon that which was above and beyond what it took to feed one's family in a year AND what it would take to replant the crop in the following year. The Lord at no time demanded that the Israelites practice impoverished giving, such as is the usual drone of modern-day prosperity teachers.
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I agree with much of what you stated. My comments using the terms preached by the church today. Were only used to define my stance on what the meaning of increase is associated with...
Increase is not your income buth the concept of increase on what you have gained.
So to your point, when I can show, that I have less in a year, then when I started, there is no tithe to be paid.
You did put forth a solid point of view.
I see giving a tithe or an amount each week as an offering not a tithe.
Even if that measure is equal to 10% of the a person's "check".