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Old 03-09-2009, 06:05 PM
staysharp staysharp is offline
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Re: Deltaguitar-Salvation Requires More Than Faith

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Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4 View Post
KWSS,

I already addressed that issue. Salvation in the New Testament also requires one to believe that God raised Jesus from death (Romans 10:9) The thief couldn't have been saved under the new dispensation because Jesus hadn't yet died. Furthermore, Jesus was the last sacrificial sin offering in the Old Testament, thus transferring the thief's sins upon Himself.

Regarding death bed repepntance, comapare that to Romans 6:3-11. Without water baptism, the death bed repenter is:

NOT baptized into His death -Romans 6:3
NOT buried with Him -Romans 6:4
NOT raised with Him -Romans 6:4
NOT united with Him in His resurrection -Romans 6:5
NOT crucified with Him -Romans 6:6
STILL slaves to sin -Romans 6:7
NOT free from sin -Romans 6:7
NOT live with Him -Romans 6:8
NOT dead to sin -Romans 6:11
NOT alive to God -Romans 6:11
Since you sincerely believe it takes a human work to save us; then one could argue we are co-laborers in our own salvation. Also, since all this obedience is required, why don't we start with the greatest commands...loving God and your neighbor as yourself. Why don't we continue in treating others as you would want to be treated.

You see if you're going to argue we can save ourselves, then you're going to have to be perfect to be saved. Your righteousness is going to have to exceed that of the pharisees.

I know of very few Christians, who truly love their neighbor as they love themselves, and I know very few Christians who treat others as they would want to be treated. This is the fundamentals of our faith and on these commands hinge all others.
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