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Originally Posted by Walks in Islam
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The contradiction example you give is not found in scripture. Speciifically list the biblical instances to show your idea of contradiction.
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OH but I did. But I must have confused you with (4) versions of (1) story instead of just using (2) at a time. This happens EVERY TIME one of you guys see a contradiction. You act confused then claim you never saw it. After it is already posted. LOL Pretending to be confused with the black and white words in front of you certainly does not make me look silly. |
You are accusing me of purposely being dishonest in this? You claim I KNOW there is a contradiction, and am playing with words and ignoring postings in order to circumvent that? Call me a liar, but I have not dealt with your words in the manner you describe. I did not ACT confused. If you listed these things earlier I did not read them. So I asked you to show me. I did not pretend to be confused either.
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So, lets do contradictions in pairs:
And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun. And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away
My analogy: "when I arrived the car was already wrecked"
After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week,
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Matt 28 says, and you quote....
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Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb. There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men. The angel said to the women, "Do not be afraid"
My analogy: "I witnessed the car wreck"
Hopefully that simplifies it for you. Do you get it yet? (2) completely different, contradictory stories. Again. Please do not imply that I did not specifically post examples again. If you need them I will post the other two. Again. Bleh
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Nothing says the women witnessed the rolling of the stone. It simply says the earth quaked while the women were on their way. It does not say they saw it roll away. This took place before the women arrived. Where do we read they arrived?
In Matt 28:2 we read THERE WAS a great earthquake. It recounts the events that occured in order to set the stage for what the women saw as recorded in the
Luke 24.
You call THAT a contradiction? You claim Matt 28 says the women SAW the stone rolled away? That is as ridiculous as saying the law about a girl claiming rape who did not cry is abusive of women with no regard for the obvious difference of judgment regarding a proved rape when a girl did cry out. It is LOOKING for fault in the bible.
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Also, you have repeated again and again that bin Ladin is not en example of Islam, and I have done the same thing with those whom you claim segregate. I am not saying there are not people who call themselves apostolic who segregate. I am saying they are not truly apostolic just as you are saying bin Ladin is not truly Islamic. So if you are going to make that argument against bin Ladin, then stop accusing my faith as one that allows segregation.
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That is not an accusation. When there are no longer all-white apostolic churches within a few miles of all-black apostolic churches within a few miles of all-hispanic apostolic churches and they never fellowship among themselves then this is effectively segregation.
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It is one thing to have black and white and hispanic churches, but another thing for each of those churches to look down on the idea of one of the other ethnic backgrounds attending and being member in its congregation.
But if you disagree, then until there are no bin Ladins amongst Islam, then Islam has wicked murderers in its religion.
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It happens. At least that is what I observed over the years. Perhaps a better approach, rather than act defensive to me or pretend it is not there is to say "why" and address it among yourselves.
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I do not consider a racist to be apostolic. Yes, they can have congregations based on ethnicity without being racist. But if they are racist, then they are not apostolic, so they are not amongst my circle.
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Also, do you claim a Christian is a true Christian while having fruit of the Spirit as well as faith that Jesus is Almighty God? (You are hedging that issue like a hot potato.)
Hedging what? I do not decide who true christians are. It is not my place to pretend I have the right to decide who is a true or not a true christian. Apply that rule to yourselves and your assemblies will be a lot more peaceful LOL
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Still hedging. Your Koran states that true Christians are not to be disregarded. How are you to obey this koranic ruling if you cannot tell which Christians are true?