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Originally Posted by noeticknight
Interesting. So, you're saying things must be relative to us, whether we know they exist or not?
If the thought "Logos" of God, his divine manifestation in the form of Jesus Christ, was always eternal, have we always existed...in the form of his foreknowledge preceding our physical emergence (human birth)? By this definition, are one's children essentially the same age as the parents, since they have both existed eternally in the mind of God at the same time?
My friend says that we're just data in the mind of God.  |
Interesting! This isn't a very researched thought on my part but I'm going to throw it out there anyway. The bible says the "Logos" was in the beginning with God and was God. I wouldn't equate the divine manifestation in the form of Jesus Christ as the "Logos". The "Logos" was made flesh. This explicitly speaks that the divine manifestation in the flesh of Jesus Christ was not always existentin reality because the flesh of Jesus was not always existent. It's not what is in the thoughts of God that makes something existent, except as a thought. So, no we did not exist except as a thought in God's mind. Maybe an interesting question to ask on this would be, did the thought of you or your parents come into God's mind first...
Age isn't just that a thought of you may have existed at the same time as them, but that thought also contained them coming into existence in reality before you. They are older than you whether the thought of them is older than you or not.
I'm saying that the term divine is a relative term. I'm saying that God is divine whether or not he created anything. If he didn't the simple concept that he could have is enough to assert his divinity. Just as the concept of good is enough to call something evil even if you have never experienced the good revealed through the concept.