I never said Jesus was not the Father. What I did say was, I'm not convinced that Paul, or any other apostle, would be comfortable saying that
Jesus is His own Father
Maybe you could give scripture for
exactly that? Sure, "He that hath seen me, hath seen the Father"( because He came from God).... His name shall be called everlasting Father.... Jesus said He'd be a Father to the orphanless... My point was, Paul never used such language as "Jesus was
HIS OWN Father, or, Jesus was
His own Son, or Jesus
Fathered Himself. That kind of "lango" isn't in the bible. But this kind of "separated distinction"is:
Ex:
Gal. 1:1 Paul an apostle..., but
by Jesus Christ, and God the Father who raised him from the dead.(I know: Jesus said destroy this temple, and 3 days I will raise it, my point of separation remains) Please view below, and then answer my highlighted question. Thanks again.
Romans 1:7 Grace to you and peace from
God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ
Rom. 15:6That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify
God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.1 Cor. 1:3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Cor. 8:6 But to us there is but
one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him;
and
one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
2 Cor. 1:2Grace be to you and peace from
God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ
2 Cor. 1:3Blessed be
God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;
2 Cor. 11:31 The
God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.
Gal 1:3 Grace be to you and peace from
God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
Eph. 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Eph. 1:3 Blessed be the
God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
Eph. 3:14 Blessed be the
God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
Eph. 6:23 Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Phil 1:2 Grace be unto you, and peace, from
God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Phil 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that
Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
Col. 1:2 Grace be unto you, and peace, from
God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Thess. 1:1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in
God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from
God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Thess 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before
God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints
2 Thess. 2:16 Now
our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
1 Tim 5:21 I charge thee before
God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.
2 Tim. 1:2 Grace, mercy, and peace, from
God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
Titus 1:4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from
God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our
Philemon 3 Grace to you, and peace, from
God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
2 John 1:3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from
God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
And that "distinction lango" he used was well after "oneness John"(& others) had the Holyghost.