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Old 03-19-2010, 01:12 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark

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Originally Posted by NotforSale View Post
This is an interesting post. All 3 of your first statements start out with; I'm guessing.

You say that it (Noah's Ark and the Flood) actually happened. My question is, what is your basis for having such a strong feeling that it did?

Another question is this; Is it possible it didn't? Will you even consider it didn't?

I think it is dangerous and irresponsible to follow an Ancient writing (s) that can't be proven. Another post in this thread talked about many other "Miracles" that can't be proven, yet we believe them without question even though our own experiences and good science counters what has been handed down to us as Facts.

The more I live, the more I see that people of yesterday could be told many things with no way to prove otherwise. But now, we are well able to look at our whole Globe doing research that brings accountability to those who've been guilty of presenting outlandish claims that defy common sense, the balance of nature, and a God of mercy and love.

I haven't talked much about other problems with the Flood other than a scientific response, but I also have a very deep problem with portraying God as wanting to wipe the Earth clean of evil, leaving only 8 people as survivors. To me, this is not only heartless but makes no sense. God is all knowing and could see into the future that this plan wouldn't work.

Wiping out the entire human race was, and is, really the only cure to stop man’s continued failure. And, if we believe in the Great Flood, we see that man just got off the boat to start all over again with his evil agenda.

The Great Flood carries a host of moral and ethical problems that taint God as a tyrant, and I refuse to feel this way about a Father in Heaven who made us, knowing we are pitiful and are in dire need of mercy. Humans are weak and we fail miserably. There's no rocket science in knowing that. We cycle in and out of moral chaos and our struggles to maintain an honest existence is always dipping into the doom of failure.

When I see children, the handicapped, crying mothers, and helpless elderly people screaming as waters drown them, my heart breaks trying to conceive that Jesus, the one who said, "Allow the little children to come unto me" is being labeled the person responsible for this mass slaughter. I more than struggle with this and refuse to darken my heart with concepts that can't be proven to be true.

You can call this heresy, doubt, or rebellion, but in this life I’ve learned how helpless we are at times and that people can be so unfortunate. My wife was sexually abused for the first 9 years of her life by her father. He recently died in prison as a sex offender. She told me it took over 20 years to be able to call God her Father. You think about this. Her mind is a delicate place and one thing said in the wrong context can leave her in a mental war for days, if not weeks.

The World is full of people like this (past and present) and we are in desperate need of a Savior. I’ve fallen on my face and pleaded with God to help my heart to understand that the World doesn’t need a Great Flood, the World needs the “Great Blood”. Calvary I can conceive, the Flood of Noah I cannot.

I think Christianity needs to stop looking at life through an "Out of Sight, Out of Mind" lens.
Do you believe that there is a hell? Do you believe the scripture that says the road to hell is wide and the way to heaven is a narrow road and few be that find it? (paraphased)

My concern with people trying to minimize the punishment God used on the people of the earth is that that same mindset will cause many to be lost thinking "God loves me and therefore He won't send me to hell". And He doesn't, you chose whether to obey His Word or not.

And for those who don't believe there was a flood, have you ever seen a rainbow?

God gave it as a reminder He would never cover the earth with water again, but the next time He would use fire.
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