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I was thinking the same thing. I came up with an idea, but it's a bit on the wild side. lol I'm going to consider theoretical quantum physics or more accurately hyperspace physics (personally I know very little about this stuff lol). The idea is that space and time can bend... or be bent. The Bible describes the "windows of heaven". The ancients believed these "windows" to be literal "windows" in the firmament. However, what if these "windows" were "openings" wherein space and time were "bent" to allow waters from above the firmament to enter our atmosphere without actually traveling the distance necessary to traverse the known universe to earth? I'm not sure of how much pressure the waters above the firmament are under, but in my mind I pictured a "window" opening transdimensionally high in our atmosphere through which these "waters" entered our atmosphere. I also don't know the form of these "waters". Are the waters above the firmament liquid, solid (ice), or gas (water vapor)? I imagined water vapor. Perhaps these "windows" were the size of an 8.5 X 11 sheet of paper or perhaps the size of your typical bedroom window. When these transdimensional "windows" were "opened" in the heavens the vapor from beyond the firmament poored forth into our atmosphere setting into motion atmospheric conditions leading to massive rains throughout our world. I know it's a wild notion... but God can do anything.
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God by definition can do anything. But the question is, "What did He do?" The fact that there is no geologic evidence for a global flood, nor even for a considerable regional flood lasting a year at any point in the past 4,000 years - why resort to such speculation?
We don't see His "fingerprints" at this "crime scene." In fact, we don't even find evidence that the "crime" took place. Why frame the Almighty for something we have no evidence even happened?
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That's assuming that water levels were what they are now before the flood. What if the oceans and seas were lower before Noah? The flood being on the earth a little over a year would have caused masssive glaciation.
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How would a flood cause massive glaciation? Water vapor is a potent greenhouse "gas."
Glaciation is caused by the long build up of snow falling upon an area. Over time the weight of the accumulated snow causes the snow and ice to push outward with slow - but incredible forces. We need snow falling, not waters of a flood.
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We see this geologically. As the waters receded to back below the earth's surface (fountains of the deep) the flood waters subsided to some degree. However water levels were still hightened and the glaciers began to melt and we're still witnessing this. This would imply that perhaps flood waters are still upon our world in the form of the oceans we know today. However, if there were need for a greater explaination the same "windows" could essentially open lower upon the earth and serve as "drains" for a sigificant amount of the flood waters, returning them to beyond the firmament.
Just theorizing in a wild way here. lol
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Yeah. But still, we have no evidence for such a flood (I forget, were you "Global" or "Local" flood? Prax was local, I think I may have mixed you two up in my mind a couple of times).
There is no evidence that all of our known existence is surrounded by a vast watery abyss, or vapor cloud.
There is a lot of water underground (you should see what I looking at in the ground floor bathroom right now); but the mechanisms for bringing just about all of it up onto the surface have left no evidence of themselves.
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I find an incredibly important message here too, it just doesn't appear to be a natural history lesson so much as a moral.