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Originally Posted by mfblume
The famous issue you raise here is solved by the fact that faith that justifies is faith that works. Without the works, the faith is not present nor real living faith that saves. That very issue is all over the forum lately. And some have claimed it is not complex, but you just proved it is.
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It is very complex.
I complained about Seagraves ending his paper with questions instead of statements.
But after reading his paper, the only conclusion one can come to, that is if you agree with him, that salvation is established, a person is saved, at initial faith-- saving faith that he identifies with repentance only.
In his paper, he rejects the idea of associating justification with water baptism.
In his paper, he rejects the idea of associating justification with Spirit Baptism evidenced by speaking in tongues.
His paper makes sense to me.
In a way I have thought this way and was moving in that direction theologically BEFORE reading his paper.
Now, not only does he make sense, I don't see how anyone else can see this issue any other way, without adding to or twisting the Bible.
So yes, I am disturbed.