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Old 07-29-2019, 12:52 PM
coksiw coksiw is offline
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Re: Tongues- A sign or THE sign Of Spirit Infillin

To keep going with my previous post:

Jesus' told them:

You shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days hence (Acts 1:5)

... so what's is to be baptized in the Holy Spirit according to Jesus?

And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost and began to speak with other tongue as the Spirit gave them utterance (Acts 2:4)

Then the people said in verse 12 says: [Act 2:12 KJV] 12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?

... and what Peter said?

But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Peter says that what they are seeing was the "pour out of the Spirit", and Joel says that as result there will be supernatural things afterwards. It is afterwards/the result of, because I have never heard in the Scripture of anyone getting the Holy Spirit and dreaming dreams as they get it. And also notice the ":" in the KJV, or ";" in other translations. The second part is the result of the first. The second part is a brief mention of empowerment or spiritual gifts that comes with the baptism of the Holy Spirit. We don't see some of the 120 having dreams or visions as they get the Spirit, instead they all spoke in tongues. Peter was referring to the first part. The second part doesn't even mention speaking in tongues.
See also verse 33:

Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

That's the evidence that the Apostles also used for Cornelius, because that was their understanding of what Jesus defines as baptism of the Holy Spirit. If something else had happened, then they wouldn't have been so sure that Cornelius got it. See the reasoning the Apostles used.

The Bible is not a mathematical book with bunch of theoretical proves. Expecting the book of Acts to say "speaking in tongues" with every single baptism that happened may be asking too much. See yourself and people around you. Do you/they speak like that as well? Every single time you/they say you got the baptism of the Holy spirit you/they say "speaking in other tongues"? You would say it only when it is useful information to make a point.
The book of Acts got enough repetition of the evidence to make the point.
You may be reading Acts as if they had the same issues you are trying to prove: speaking in tongues is not the only evidence of baptism of the Spirit. Acts makes the point by repetition and the reasoning of the apostles, and moves on probably because this was not the problem at their time.
Also, the epistles were written to already born again believers, keep that in mind. The book of Acts is the best reference of how the new birth actually happens.

Last edited by coksiw; 07-29-2019 at 01:54 PM.
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