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Originally Posted by mfblume
And it's still a question?
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I don't think the question has been answered, except with 'nobody is sure'.
But that wasn't the entire point of the thread. The discussion is Peter and Jude's use of information common and current among 1st century Jews, beliefs and ideas and traditions. Those beliefs and ideas and traditions happen to be described rather clearly in the Book(s) of Enoch (as well as some of the other Jewish apocryphal writings of the time) and reflect a certain strata of Jewish religious thought.
It is my point that Peter and Jude both seem to be refuting those notions and turning them back upon the ones teaching them, who appear to have been busy trying to infiltrate the early church, bringing in all sorts of 'fables and myths' and who also seem to have been rather loose in their morals and standards.
I am wondering if the 'sect of the Nicolaitans' may be connected in some sense, as well, although I think there is so scant information on that group that everything may be just speculation with nowhere to go, as far as that goes.