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Old 12-15-2011, 09:36 PM
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A Great Series.

Even if you might not agree with everything here,this series can be of benefit to you.

http://thepentecostals.org/podcast/a...8-22-30522.mp3
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:37 PM
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Re: A Great Series.

http://thepentecostals.org/podcast/i...ernacle&page=2
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Re: A Great Series.

I started listening to this last night.

for anyone who is interested in being stirred to pray, the series is by Anthony Mangun and he is using notes from his Father to teach on "praying the tabernacle."
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:34 AM
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Re: A Great Series.

Heaven to Earth: The Tabernacle Today (Where God Meets Man-The Altar of Repentance)
2010-08-26

Where God Meets Man-The Altar of Repentance is the second sermon in the series Heaven to Earth. In this message Pastor Anthony Mangun shares the significance of the Brazen Altar in relationship to repentance and death to self. This insightful series is inspired by Bishop G. A. Mangun’s pattern of praying through the Old Testament tabernacle plan.


Notes on lesson 2 of 9:
The tabernacle is a type of Jesus
Jesus is our eternal dwelling place
The tabernacle is a type of Jesus on the cross

Hebrews 9:11-14
11But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Jesus took the blood to the holy place
The blood of Christ brings eternal redemption.

The tabernacle in the wilderness, key to God’s presence
The first piece of furniture when you enter the Tabernacle is the brazen altar
The altar of sacrifice, Jesus became the offering, the was the perfect sacrifice

The bigger the altar in our lives, the more of God’s presence we will experience in the Holy place.

The altar is where I let go of my will, where I surrender to God’s will

The fire from the altar is used to light the 7 golden candlesticks which bring the savor of incense into the holy place.

Romans 12
1I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

we are to be a living sacrifice, to submit our lives to the Lord and keep the fires burning
Leviticus 6:13
13The fire shall ever be burning upon the altar; it shall never go out.
– don’t let the fire go out, daily repentance

The altar is a place of slaughter, sacrifice, the cross
Daily we put ourselves on the altar of prayer

It’s not about salvation, its about our flesh on the altar,, it’s about the presence of God

The Cross was a torture rack of death

Galatians says cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree

Galatians 2:20
20I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

1 Corinthians 2:2
2For I determined not to know anything among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

1 Corinthians 9:27 keep our bodies under subjection
Every morning GA prayed for God to crucify him

Galatians 5:24
24And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Crucified flesh

1 Corinthians 15:31
31I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.
– die daily

Romans 6:6
6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

destroy sin
Romans 8:36
36As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
– sheep for the slaughter

It’s a Christ centered gospel, a cross centered gospel

The cross is the center of our lives

2 Corinthians 4:16
16For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.

Colossians 3:2-3
2Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.

Colossians 3:5-8
5Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
6For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
7In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
8But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.

Prayer and fasting for power, anointing, glory, healings.

Build a bigger altar

Get on the altar, put everything on the altar, and be alive in the Spirit.

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Old 12-16-2011, 04:02 PM
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Re: A Great Series.

It’s not about salvation, its about our flesh on the altar,, it’s about the presence of God

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Old 12-18-2011, 02:14 AM
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Re: A Great Series.

I'm not done listening to Bro Manguns series on praying through the Tabernacle, but I've been waking up early and following this pattern the last few days.

He teaches that The Tabernacle in the wilderness is a type of the Tabernacle in heaven, and that the tabernacle is a type of Christ and the cross. It is also a pattern for prayer.

When you enter the tabernacle the first piece of furniture is an altar, to pray the tabernacle, each morning when you wake up, you start by putting yourself on the altar of repentance. You die daily, you repent of everything and anything that is not like Christ.

The Second piece of furniture in the outer court is the brazen laver. Here is where, after you repent, you wash in the water of the Word. you prayerfully read the Word, and let God speak to you of what is in your life that needs to change so you can be more like Christ.

The outer court is about self, it's where we offer ourselves as a living sacrifice, repent, die and wash ourselves.

Next we enter the holy place. This is where we put on our priestly garments. There are three entrances into the holy place, Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life.

There are five pillars, Jesus is Wonderful, Counselor, the Mightly God, Everlasting Father, Prince of peace.

This is the place of intercessory prayer, we begin with praise to Jesus, telling him how wonderful he is. We ask him to be our counselor. We pray that he will speak wise counsel to us and others that we pray for, We ask him to be a Father for those we know, children, widows, people who are sick and in need. And we ask him to being peace into the lives of people we know.

Next is the Candlestick, but he didn't teach on that was saving it for a Sunday morning sermon, so he taught on the Shewbread.

This is the prace in prayer where we pick up the Sword of the Word, pray the Word and get a word from the Lord to apply to our lives

We can't run on Spirit alone. We need to eat the Word daily.

I'm going to finish the series and will post on it as I finish it. I do want to say that it is very powerful to pray the tabernacle as a pattern for prayer. It is very powerful to do this first when you wake each morning, to repent, wash with the word, prayfully let God speak to you through his word.

It is my intent to lay things aside this coming year and spend more time in prayer, more time in the word, more time at church. I going to let God speak to me and change me through prayer, his Spirit, and his Word.

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Old 12-18-2011, 03:14 AM
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Re: A Great Series.

My mom is has listened to this message, and does not agree with everything, but has said that there are things that are useful in prayer.
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Re: A Great Series.

I have not listened to this series but have heard about it from people. It worries me anytime someone tries to extrapolate so much from scripture. Anybody can pretty much say anything is a type of something else.

The danger is for something like this teaching to be treated as if it is a new doctrine and it becomes part of church dogma / tradition.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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Re: A Great Series.

I consider this to be another teaching on prayer that will help people. I prefer Bro. Bean's method of teaching prayer, but that I have heard others. I do not think that there is that much different in the end results. It all depends on what helps you get in touch with God through prayer.
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Re: A Great Series.

this apparently was first introduced by Dr Cho

There is no new doctrine being introduced by Bro Mangun that I can tell.

http://www.prayerschool.net/curricul...ion_insert.htm

Dr. Cho's Introduction to the Tabernacle Prayer

The prayer I use most is the Tabernacle Prayer. Every day I use the Tabernacle Prayer three or four times. This prayer is so effective, so powerful, and so clear that it is a tremendous blessing.


When I was trying to find a way to pray longer, God clearly revealed this Tabernacle Prayer to me.


The most important thing is to pray more than 30 minutes to one hour every day. First, you must learn to pray for at least 30 minutes, then one hour. I say 30 minutes by compromising with Westerners. In the Orient, I say one hour, no compromise. But with Westerners, I give some leniency.


In Gethsemane, Jesus commanded His disciples to pray one hour. "Can't you be awake one hour with me together in prayer so that you may not fall into temptation?" Since the disciples could not pray for one hour, they fell into temptation. So, one hour is actually the basis for our prayer.


How can you pray one hour? If you pray the free-style prayer, you cannot pray for one hour. Usually, people do not have a definite and desperate goal to hit over and over again, and so that is another problem.


But the more you pray, the better you feel about the Tabernacle Prayer.


One day, I was praying to the Lord saying, "Oh Lord, now I should know the wonderful forms of prayer so that I can pray over and over again without feeling any fatigue." Like lightning, God said, "Pray according to the Tabernacle Prayer." Instantly, the whole plan of the Tabernacle Prayer was revealed to me.


During the Old Testament when the Israelites came out of the wilderness, God showed Moses how to build the Tabernacle through which the Israelites would come and worship the Lord. God strictly told Moses to build the Tabernacle according to the plan, which he saw on Mt. Sinai. So when Moses came down from the mountain, he built a tabernacle in the wilderness.


All the Israelites were commanded to come and worship God only at the Tabernacle. They were not permitted to worship God outside of the Tabernacle.


This Tabernacle is a definite type of worship which God wants. God said, "Ye are the temple of the Holy Ghost. Ye are the Tabernacle of the Holy Spirit. The Tabernacle has disappeared but now you are the Tabernacle. You are the temple in which the Holy Spirit dwells."


So when you pray in your temple, your physical being, in your imagination you must go through the Tabernacle and worship God according to God's plan.


For a summary of what the Old Testament says about the Tabernacle read Ex 40:1-8.


For a summary of what the New Testament says about the significance of the Tabernacle read Heb 8:1-6; Heb 9:1-27
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