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Old 03-18-2013, 10:34 AM
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What’s the Difference Between Holiness and Legalis

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Holiness is beautiful, legalism is binding; holiness brings life, legalism brings death. They are as different as night and day, and yet at first glance they can seem similar, because they both stand against sinful behavior and call for holy living. How can we distinguish between the two?

Legalism is rules without relationship, emphasizing standards more than the Savior, and laws more than love. It is a system based on fear and characterized by joyless judgmentalism, producing futility instead of freedom.

To an unsaved person, the legalist preaches justification by works, saying, “You’re a wicked sinner and you need to get rid of all your filthy habits if you want the Lord to accept you.” There is no grace in this message; no exalting of the life-changing, sin-cleansing power of the blood of Jesus; no clear proclamation of mercy.

The declaration of God’s love expressed through the cross is muffled, if it is even heard at all. Consequently, the proof of the new birth is seen almost entirely in what someone no longer does, and this continues to be the pattern for believers within the church: They are judged almost entirely by a few external standards (which, in many cases, are not even expressly mentioned in the Word) and they are monitored by conformity to the particular group’s code of conduct. The result is external conformity rather than inward transformation—and that means either self-righteousness of self-condemnation (or both!).

Of course, it is absolutely true that God has very high standards, and for anyone honestly reading the Word, there can be no doubt that He calls us to live by very high standards—in our thoughts, words and deeds; in our attitudes; in our sexuality; in our families; in our relationships; and much, much more. (See Eph. 5:1-6.)

Tragically, legalists—despite their best intentions—get things terribly wrong. First, they try to change a person from the outside in, whereas God deals with us from the inside out. Second, they fail to present a balanced picture of the Lord, putting too little stress on His mercy and too much emphasis on His wrath. Third, they do not point the struggling sinner (or believer) to the Lord’s supernatural empowerment, making holiness a matter of human effort alone. Finally, they add laws, standards, commandments, customs and traditions that are not found in the Word, making those things even more important than the biblical commandments themselves.

In contrast, true, scriptural holiness begins with the heart and flows from an encounter with God and His Word. It calls for repentance in response to the Lord’s gracious offer of salvation and it offers a way to be holy—the blood of Jesus and the Spirit of God. Biblical holiness is free, although it requires discipline and perseverance. For the legalist, nothing is free. Everything must be earned! That’s why legalism leads to bondage and holiness leads to liberty.

As Ralph Cudworth explained many years ago, “I do not mean by holiness the mere performance of outward duties of religion, coldly acted over, as a task; not our habitual prayings, hearings, fastings, multiplied one upon another (though these be all good, as subservient to a higher end); but I mean an inward soul and principle of divine life (Rom. 8:1-5), that spiriteth all these.”

It is that inward spiritual principle that must be cultivated—the principle of intimacy with Jesus, the principle of being renewed in our minds by His Word and Spirit, the principle of being conformed to His image and character, hating what He hates and loving what He loves.

As Dr. Kent Hughes expressed in his book Disciplines of a Godly Man, “There is a universe of difference between the motivations behind legalism and discipline. Legalism says, ‘I will do this thing to gain merit with God,’ while discipline says, ‘I will do this because I love God and want to please him.’ Legalism is man-centered; discipline is God-centered.”

Unfortunately, the moment you preach biblical holiness, many Christians put their hands over their ears and say, “That’s legalism! That’s condemnation! That’s man-made religion! That’s the dead letter of the law! You won’t put me in bondage! I won’t listen to stuff like that!” As Robert Brimstead observed, “The idea of living strictly by what the Bible says has been branded as legalism.”

And so, these Christians run from the dangerous clutches of legalism and fall into the deadly grasp of license—that self-deceived state of fleshly liberty, catering to their carnality rather than crucifying it. What a terrible error!

Whatever comes naturally to these “liberated” believers is accepted as normal (and “understood,” of course, by the Lord), while biblical commandments are brought down to the level of their own experience, and anything that brings any kind of spiritual pressure to bear on them is rejected as not being the easy yoke and light burden of Jesus. And when the Holy Spirit brings conviction on people like this, they rebuke the devil for trying to condemn them.

To quote Oswald Chambers, “Liberty means ability not to violate the law; license means personal insistence on doing what I like. … To be free from the law means that I am the living law of God, there is no independence of God in my make-up. License is rebellion against all law. If my heart does not become the center of divine love, it may become the center of diabolical license.”

What then is the antidote? Flee from legalism, stay far away from license, and run to holiness. Reject humanly birthed, external religion. Give no place to false teaching that excuses carnality, and instead, embrace new covenant, heart transformation—and in the power of the Spirit, supernaturally enabled by God’s grace, deal ruthlessly with sin in your life. That is the path to freedom!

(Adapted from Go and Sin No More: A Call to Holiness.)

Michael Brown is the author of The Real Kosher Jesus and the host of the nationally syndicated talk radio show The Line of Fire on the Salem Radio Network. He is also president of FIRE School of Ministry and director of the Coalition of Conscience. Follow him at AskDrBrown on Facebook or @drmichaellbrown on Twitter.
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Holiness is essentially righteousness... and it is imputed to us, that in our inner man, through the indwelling Holy Ghost.

Now, sanctification is the process in which we grow into "Christlikeness".

Any man made list of standards will conform you into the image of an organization or denomination. God desires that we be conformed into the image of Christ alone.

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Law of Moses... nailed to the cross.
Ten Commandments... nailed to the cross.

The debt we own is paid in full.

Now all we are commanded to do is two things...
1.) Love God with all our being.
2.) Demonstrate our love for God by loving others as ourselves.
This is known as the Law of Christ.
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Old 03-18-2013, 12:39 PM
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Re: What’s the Difference Between Holiness and Leg

hmmm...
I know very few people here. My comments are not directed at anyone in particular, rather, they are directed towards a spirit I see within Apostolic ranks.

Holiness starts in the heart but does not stop there. True holiness will manifest itself in the life and actions of the believer. Standards without the Holy Ghost makes a person a whited sepulcher. Yet, we are commanded to be holy...

Eph_1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Eph_5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

Col 1:21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
Col 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

Tit 1:7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
Tit 1:8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;

1Pe_1:15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
1Pe_1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

1Pe_2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

1Pe_2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

2Pe_3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,


There were in the days of the Apostles men that "promised liberty" and Peter had some strong words for them:

2Pe 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
2Pe 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
2Pe 2:11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
2Pe 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
2Pe 2:13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
2Pe 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
2Pe 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
2Pe 2:16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
2Pe 2:17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
2Pe 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
2Pe 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.


There are those among Apostolic ranks that are not Apostolic. It was true in the days of the Apostles and it is true today. They are the Moabites of the church. The Moabites spoke Hebrew and had a simplistic understanding of who God was/is. They wanted to help the returning Israelites rebuild the temple and to worship with them (Ezra 4). Sanballat is said to have been a Moabite ((JFB commentary) Nehemiah). Yet, Sanballat fought against the wall of separation from that HOLY CITY and the world (Nehemiah). They tried to join them. Many of the Israelites compromised and married them (Ezra 9). Even the Levites compromised the standard of separation. Sanballat sought to stop the rebuilding of those walls of separation by first ridiculing and progressing to plots against the work. The Moabites and Ammonites both traced their roots back to Abraham because they were the children of Lot. To the untrained eye they appeared to be just like the Israleites. There were features that were the same. They used the same language. They professed the same lineage. yet, listen to the word of God:
Ezr 4:1 Now when the adversaries of Judah and Benjamin heard that the children of the captivity builded the temple unto the LORD God of Israel;
Ezr 4:2 Then they came to Zerubbabel, and to the chief of the fathers, and said unto them, Let us build with you: for we seek your God, as ye do; and we do sacrifice unto him since the days of Esarhaddon king of Assur, which brought us up hither.
Ezr 4:3 But Zerubbabel, and Jeshua, and the rest of the chief of the fathers of Israel, said unto them, Ye have nothing to do with us to build an house unto our God; but we ourselves together will build unto the LORD God of Israel, as king Cyrus the king of Persia hath commanded us.

Those that try to hinder the building of walls of separation are seen for what they are. They speak haughty words of emptiness and are nothing more than water-less wells... They promise "freedom" and call holiness conduct legalism but are themselves slaves of corruption.

Holiness begins in the heart and manifests itself in the life and conduct of the Christian. Some of the things I have seen "Apostolic" women wear grieves me. I will refrain from describing some of the garbage I have seen. I will just say this, if you need a shoe horn to get into a skirt you are not holy in conduct. When men act like women you are not holy in conduct. Whatever happened to come from among them and be ye separate?

I better quit for now.


Thank you for reminding us that Holiness begins in the heart but it does not stop there. That is the beginning not the end.
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Holiness is essentially righteousness... and it is imputed to us, that in our inner man, through the indwelling Holy Ghost.

Now, sanctification is the process in which we grow into "Christlikeness".

Any man made list of standards will conform you into the image of an organization or denomination. God desires that we be conformed into the image of Christ alone.
I do not agree.

The bible clearly states that Rightesousness is imputed. We cannot earn "right standing" with God. NOthing we do can be even considered part of righteousness.

However the bible states in both old and new testament, to "BE HOLY".

BE means action on our part.

if you are right, then I have a problem with the bible.
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I do not agree.

The bible clearly states that Rightesousness is imputed. We cannot earn "right standing" with God. NOthing we do can be even considered part of righteousness.

However the bible states in both old and new testament, to "BE HOLY".

BE means action on our part.

if you are right, then I have a problem with the bible.
Okay, let's follow this through...

We are commanded to "be holy". How do WE as NT believers "be holy"??? Is there a comprehensive list of things we must be sure to do??? If so, then someone has to present that list. But I've discovered... NOBODY can present that list. Because the moment one person presents a list... another person presents another... and then another presents another.... and it goes on and on and on. Each list representing the interests of each individual church, ministry, or denomination. You'll see head coverings, Sabbath observance, dietary requirements, Jewish Feast Day observance, refusal to observe any holidays, dress codes (some canceling others out), etc.

There can be only one absolutely perfect, sinless, holy standard. That is Christ. And if Christ be in us... we walk in His holiness by faith. We have been made holy... by His blood.

Therefore, all we must do to "be holy"... is be willing to surrender our self oriented, behavior driven notions of holiness... and put on Christ... counting our own selves to have been crucified with Christ, even though we live. Realizing that it is not we, ourselves, ... but Christ who lives within us.

I'm hidden in Christ. Perfect, holy, sinless. Though it isn't my sinless perfection... it is His. And it is imparted to me, to my inner man, through the indwelling of the Holy Ghost.

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I do not agree.

The bible clearly states that Rightesousness is imputed. We cannot earn "right standing" with God. NOthing we do can be even considered part of righteousness.

However the bible states in both old and new testament, to "BE HOLY".

BE means action on our part.

if you are right, then I have a problem with the bible.
Im on your side but consider this:

3:7 Little children, let no one lead you astray. He who does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 3:8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. 1 John 3:8-9

So righteousness IS as righteousness DOES.

John the beloved disciple tells through the Holy Ghost we are to be righteous EVEN AS he is righteous.

The Evangelical Protestant Theologians have muddied the pure waters of scripture by turning "righteousness" into a mere "concept". To them it means since Jesus was righteous you will always be righteous in his sight if you are a believer.

You could almost call it "once righteous always righteous".

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Re: the opening post. If true a lot of Standard keepers are NOT legalists.
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Im on your side but consider this:

3:7 Little children, let no one lead you astray. He who does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 3:8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. 1 John 3:8-9

So righteousness IS as righteousness DOES.

John the beloved disciple tells through the Holy Ghost we are to be righteous EVEN AS he is righteous.

The Evangelical Protestant Theologians have muddied the pure waters of scripture by turning "righteousness" into a mere "concept". To them it means since Jesus was righteous you will always be righteous in his sight if you are a believer.

You could almost call it "once righteous always righteous".
Great points. However, how does one measure their righteousness to know how we are "even as we are righteous"???
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The term "legalism" has to do with observance of law. In recent times the term has been redefined. Now if a believers "thinks" he has to DO anything to attain eternal life he is counted a legalist.
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