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09-06-2007, 07:46 AM
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Can a true man of God serve two Masters?
In this day and age of organizations, when a minister signs a contract or affirmation statement.....
How can a minister serve God and follow after Gods leading, but yet be under subjection to a collective network.
God is not bound to the authorities of any organization.
How then can a man of God serve God, but then be subject to the final say of his Org and peers?
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09-06-2007, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by COOPER
In this day and age of organizations, when a minister signs a contract or affirmation statement.....
How can a minister serve God and follow after Gods leading, but yet be under subjection to a collective network.
God is not bound to the authorities of any organization.
How then can a man of God serve God, but then be subject to the final say of his Org and peers?
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Accountability does not a master make! 
Certainly, if one feels that the group of men to whom he has made himself accountable are hindering his ability to follow after God's will, he should separate himself from that group and find another where he is feels he can follow after the leading of the Holy Ghost. BTW... the group of men need not be an organization... simply men of God to whom one is accountable.
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09-06-2007, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by COOPER
In this day and age of organizations, when a minister signs a contract or affirmation statement.....
How can a minister serve God and follow after Gods leading, but yet be under subjection to a collective network.
God is not bound to the authorities of any organization.
How then can a man of God serve God, but then be subject to the final say of his Org and peers?
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God is not bound to the authorities of any organization. However God recognizes the value of good standing with both church peers and the "outside world" when it comes to preserving the purity of the gospel message and when it comes to effectively persuading sinners to take a closer look at what Christianity has to offer. Most people can detect hypocrisy from age 3.
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1 Timothy 3
1 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
Titus 1
6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;
9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
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09-06-2007, 09:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by COOPER
In this day and age of organizations, when a minister signs a contract or affirmation statement.....
How can a minister serve God and follow after Gods leading, but yet be under subjection to a collective network.
God is not bound to the authorities of any organization.
How then can a man of God serve God, but then be subject to the final say of his Org and peers?
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Coop, this is about as silly to me as asking:
Can a woman serve God and still submit to her husband's authority?
...PLUS...since GOD is the One Who commanded us to submit to our elders, then part of being submitted to God is submitting to our elders.
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09-06-2007, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Coop, this is about as silly to me as asking:
Can a woman serve God and still submit to her husband's authority?
...PLUS...since GOD is the One Who commanded us to submit to our elders, then part of being submitted to God is submitting to our elders. |
It's Not silly MissBrattified. Many good people are faced with serving, pleasing God and trying to please leadership.
To what extent will you submit?
There will be limitations.
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09-06-2007, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by COOPER
It's Not silly MissBrattified. Many good people are faced with serving, pleasing God and trying to please leadership.
To what extent will you submit?
There will be limitations.
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The line is easy to define--you submit to leadership unless what they ask you to do violates the Word and would cause you to disobey it.
Then you obey God rather than man.
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09-06-2007, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by COOPER
In this day and age of organizations, when a minister signs a contract or affirmation statement.....
How can a minister serve God and follow after Gods leading, but yet be under subjection to a collective network.
God is not bound to the authorities of any organization.
How then can a man of God serve God, but then be subject to the final say of his Org and peers?
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well at least this one aint about tithes
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09-06-2007, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TrUtHlIvEr
well at least this one aint about tithes
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Give it time...give it time.
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09-06-2007, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by philjones
Accountability does not a master make!
Certainly, if one feels that the group of men to whom he has made himself accountable are hindering his ability to follow after God's will, he should separate himself from that group and find another where he is feels he can follow after the leading of the Holy Ghost. BTW... the group of men need not be an organization... simply men of God to whom one is accountable. |
Accountability is good thing when it is used with balance and not used for a way to control another mans destiny in God.
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09-06-2007, 10:01 AM
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Give it time...give it time. |
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