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Hellinistic and Hebraic Thinking?
Ok I'm curious about alot of different subjects ,pertaining to the Bible ,and Biblical culture and Theology.
What is the difference between Hellinistic ,and Hebraic thinking as it relates to the New Testament?
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Ok I'm curious about alot of different subjects ,pertaining to the Bible ,and Biblical culture and Theology.
What is the difference between Hellinistic ,and Hebraic thinking as it relates to the New Testament?
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Plenty, because much of how we interpret some passages has alot to do with how that author thought, in either a Hellenistic way or a Hebrew Way.
The Classic is John 1:1 the word an logos arguement.
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04-01-2007, 02:38 PM
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Bump for you scholars.
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Ok I'm curious about alot of different subjects ,pertaining to the Bible ,and Biblical culture and Theology.
What is the difference between Hellinistic ,and Hebraic thinking as it relates to the New Testament?
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In the OT; the Hebrews recognized the worth of women. This ideaology was expressed in Proverbs among other places (including the Ten Commandments) where children were instructed to honor BOTH their fathers and mothers.
By the NT time; after being Hellenized; the Jewish men got up and prayed thanking God they weren't a Gentile nor a woman.
But it was not always so.... (In other words; to some extent the Hebrews had been Hellenized by the time of the NT). 
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In the OT; the Hebrews recognized the worth of women. This ideaology was expressed in Proverbs among other places (including the Ten Commandments) where children were instructed to honor BOTH their fathers and mothers.
By the NT time; after being Hellenized; the Jewish men got up and prayed thanking God they weren't a Gentile nor a woman.
But it was not always so.... (In other words; to some extent the Hebrews had been Hellenized by the time of the NT). |
Newman, do you have any definitive proof for this? Sincerely curious. Thanks.
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04-01-2007, 03:10 PM
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Newman, do you have any definitive proof for this? Sincerely curious. Thanks.
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Absolutly, historical fact and record. However, I probably have a ton of books (my husband knows of no one that has more books then me) and half are not on shelves.
Bottom line... I can't easily tell you which books this is in right now. But someone else may know. In fact, I believe there was a thread about this Jewish prayer at the other forum. 
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Absolutly, historical fact and record. However, I probably have a ton of books (my husband knows of no one that has more books then me) and half are not on shelves.
Bottom line... I can't easily tell you which books this is in right now. But someone else may know. In fact, I believe there was a thread about this Jewish prayer at the other forum. |
I do understand the difficulty in locating exact refernces. I would caution thought that this was not a widely held view of the Jews in early church history. A single prayer does not equate to a national mindset. JMO.
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04-01-2007, 03:19 PM
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Perhaps Ronzo could offer us some input as he has been studying these sort of subjects.
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I do understand the difficulty in locating exact refernces. I would caution thought that this was not a widely held view of the Jews in early church history. A single prayer does not equate to a national mindset. JMO.
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True enough. But I am not so sure that it was just a single prayer and not a mindset of some; the Pharisees in particular.
My understanding was (and I am loathe to state this without looking at the reference material again) is that Gal 3:27 was Paul's answer to such a prayer that he was well aware was out there.
Your post suggests that you are familiar enough with Jewish thought to think this atypical. Please share what you know!
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