I asked this in the fellowship section where everything under the sun is discussed, and felt to move it here so we can dig deeper into the issue from the folks who usually post here who enjoy going deeper with an issue.
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Originally Posted by STRONG'S LEXICON
RESURRECTION G386
ἀνάστασις
anastasis
an-as'-tas-is
From G450; a standing up again, that is, (literally) a resurrection from death (individual, general or by implication (its author)), or (figuratively) a (moral) recovery (of spiritual truth): -translated in the KJV as raised to life again, resurrection, rise from the dead, that should rise, rising again.
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When it comes to RESURRECTION, if something did not have to live at one time, and then die to exist without life, and then live a second time in order to be "resurrected", then the doctrine of full preterism (fp) teaching is not against a resurrection of the church.
My hesitance with FP "resurrection" is as follows. "Resurrection" means to come to life again. It teaches that there is a "resurrection" when a saint dies since the date of AD70. If I died today and was saved, it teaches my spirit and soul leave the physical body. It teaches my physical body will never live again, but turn to dust and be gone forever. In fact, it is claimed I will never again have a physical body ever.
Not only that, but Fp teaches that an invisible and non-physical body is obtained at the moment of our deaths. It did not live before and died, only to come to life again. So it did not "resurrect". Some claim it came out of the physical body like a plant comes out of a seed shell when the seed is germinated.
Now, if I died today, my physical body is the only thing that dies between the time of natural life and after-life (for lack of a better term). The soul and spirit continues to live whether the body dies or not. Neither of the soul and spirit die, necessitating them to be resurged with life again.
So, if the soul and spirit continue living when the body dies, what comes back to life? What resurrects?
The person? The person's body died, but the physical body is not said to ever be an issue again in FP.
So, why is the word, resurrection, defined as "to COME BACK TO LIFE AGAIN" used according to full preterism? The soul and spirit did not die when the physical body died, necessitating them to come to life again. Only the physical brain died.
The moment when the FP "resurrection" occurs, they claim, is when we physically die and leave our physical bodies. The soul and spirit do not stop living but pass through this experience without having to come to life again. They never stopped living. So how is there a resurrection when the body dies to never again be given life, and the soul and spirit do not die anyway, but continue to go on and be with the Lord? If the body were to be revived, then i can see resurrection. Something has come to life again. But since the soul and spirit do not come to life again, because they continued on through death in a very living state all the while, what is it that is "back from the dead"? What is it that "comes to life again"? Does the Greek term used for resurrection NOT MEAN back to life again? It would have to not mean that in order for fp's to claim there is a "resurrection" in view when we die and experience what they claim we experience.
The soul and spirit leaves a body as soon as it physically dies. They are not carried into the grave when the body is dead, three days after death, and then leave the body. They go straight to glory as soon as the body dies. "How is that a resurrection?"
Jesus Christ's body died and stayed dead for three days. Did His human soul and His Spirit die and stay in the grave for three days? Where was His SON OF GOD consciousness? Sleeping? We know the BODY alone died. And Jesus resurrected when that body came to life again. His human soul and His Spirit did not die to be made alive again when the third day arrived. So, we see a resurrection in Jesus.
And if there is no SOUL SLEEP NOW, whereas there allegedly was before AD70 in FP teaching, our souls and spirits leave the body when it dies, and do not pause in any manner to sleep or die in any form. They carry on. The old chorus goes,
"We do not die, we just move on high, to live with Christ the king." We leave our mortal bodies, when they die, and carry on very much alive in spirit and soul. SO how does "come back to life", the definition of "resurrection", fit according to fp?